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 Post subject: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 12:57 pm 
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Hello, a new member here but have browsed the forums for quite a while.

I've had what I think is a Hawthorne and Sheble horn for about a decade. It was originally the transparent/candy red with gold accents, with cream and yellow inside the lower to mid section of the horn. A previous owner started to sand and strip it on the outside while the inside of the horn is original...if a bit worn.

In this case do you all still think it'd be best to leave it even though someone already started to strip the original paint from the exterior? The horn is an 8 petal horn with the narrower connection for a cylinder machine. It's approximately 23" long.

I'll post some pictures tonight when I get home.

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 Post subject: Re: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 2:06 pm 
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Yes, photos would be nice. It is so hard for me to paint a metal horn and not have a finished result that does not scream "I've been painted!". I've seen some translucent paint jobs that looked fair to good but it is difficult. Jerry Blais


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 Post subject: Re: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 4:00 pm 
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If you can save the inside at all do so, since the outside has been started this stuff finishes really close to original with a little practice. I'll be doing a complete Red sometime in the next couple of months and will put pics up of the before and after. Here's a Blue I'm working on currently.

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 Post subject: Re: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 6:40 pm 
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The horn below looks great? Where do you get this paint? For years, I use Testors translucent blue, green and red. The drawback is the cans are small and take about 5 cans for a horn like yours.
Harvey Kravitz


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 Post subject: Re: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:12 pm 
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Ok, here are some images of the horn. I originally got it as an alternative to my Edison 11 panel horn, as that is a huge horn. I have a Home Model B.


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File comment: A side by side size comparison with my 11 panel Edison Home horn. It still has the rubber connector tube on the end
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File comment: An interior view, showing the color and how scratched up it is
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File comment: A pic of the hanger, which is one of the things that makes me think it's H&S. Any decals that were on it are gone.
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File comment: A full length shot showing how much of the external finish has been sanded.
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 Post subject: Re: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Wed Aug 14, 2019 7:13 pm 
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RSStone wrote:
If you can save the inside at all do so, since the outside has been started this stuff finishes really close to original with a little practice. I'll be doing a complete Red sometime in the next couple of months and will put pics up of the before and after. Here's a Blue I'm working on currently.



That blue horn is absolutely beautiful! I love the color


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 Post subject: Re: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:47 pm 
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Phonofreak wrote:
The horn below looks great? Where do you get this paint? For years, I use Testors translucent blue, green and red. The drawback is the cans are small and take about 5 cans for a horn like yours.
Harvey Kravitz


Is dupli color metalcast #MC201, I polished the metal and then used basecoat. Practiced on scrap sheet metal until I got the depth I liked.


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 Post subject: Re: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:51 pm 
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cchaven wrote:
RSStone wrote:
If you can save the inside at all do so, since the outside has been started this stuff finishes really close to original with a little practice. I'll be doing a complete Red sometime in the next couple of months and will put pics up of the before and after. Here's a Blue I'm working on currently.



That blue horn is absolutely beautiful! I love the color


Thank you, is dupli color MC201 with polished horn and basecoat, doing a red soon.


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 Post subject: Re: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 3:47 pm 
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cchaven wrote:
Ok, here are some images of the horn. I originally got it as an alternative to my Edison 11 panel horn, as that is a huge horn. I have a Home Model B.


Has definitely had better days, if you're set on keeping the coloring inside, a light cleaning with Dawn and warm water with a soft cloth, a gold pen will take care of the striping and outside rim and then clear coat after dry. The Red Metalcast would definitely do the job for the outside.

Here's the link to a post I made about the Blue one pictured above, with details on how I did it, viewtopic.php?f=7&t=40093 . Have an artist coming in Monday or Tuesday to hand paint the flowers inside to match the original, will post pics of that when finished as well. Looking forward to seeing how things turn out for you :D


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 Post subject: Re: H&S horn...to refinish or not
PostPosted: Thu Aug 15, 2019 6:13 pm 
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Where did you buy this at?
Harvey Kravitz

RSStone wrote:
Phonofreak wrote:
The horn below looks great? Where do you get this paint? For years, I use Testors translucent blue, green and red. The drawback is the cans are small and take about 5 cans for a horn like yours.
Harvey Kravitz


Is dupli color metalcast #MC201, I polished the metal and then used basecoat. Practiced on scrap sheet metal until I got the depth I liked.


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