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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:07 am 
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Make: Edison
Model: A250
Serial # SM 12887
Year(s) Made: Late 1912 - 1914
Original Cost: $250
Case/Cabinet Size: 51 ½" high x 21 ½" wide x 23" deep
Turntable/Mandrel: 12"
Reproducer/Sound-Box: Edison Standard Disc
Motor: Double Spring A250
Horn Dimensions: 17 ½" x 12"
Reproduction Parts: none
Current Value: $600 - $800?
Interesting Facts: This one must have been very late in the line with such a high serial number and later record filing system.
Favorite Characteristics: Has all but 1 of the file cards, very good original condition. Serial number stamped on bedplate 12887-A1, and on paper tag underneath the horn in front. Dealer's decal underneath the lid. Looks like it's had very little use, repair or maintenance. After 90 plus years it ran perfectly on first winding after I acquired it. I've only oiled it.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 6:20 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 8:46 am 
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Very nice, Bruce! Those big A-series Disc Phonographs exude class, don't they? Interesting carving on the front feet, too. Is there a Cabinet Factory number tag inside?

Thanks for showing this machine - -

George P.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:17 am 
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Valecnik wrote:
Make: Edison
Model: A250
Serial # SM 12887
Year(s) Made: Late 1912 - 1914
Original Cost: $250
Case/Cabinet Size: 51 ½" high x 21 ½" wide x 23" deep
Turntable/Mandrel: 12"
Reproducer/Sound-Box: Edison Standard Disc
Motor: Double Spring A250
Horn Dimensions: 17 ½" x 12"
Reproduction Parts: none
Current Value: $600 - $800?
Interesting Facts: This one must have been very late in the line with such a high serial number and later record filing system.
Favorite Characteristics: Has all but 1 of the file cards, very good original condition. Serial number stamped on bedplate 12887-A1, and on paper tag underneath the horn in front. Dealer's decal underneath the lid. Looks like it's had very little use, repair or maintenance. After 90 plus years it ran perfectly on first winding after I acquired it. I've only oiled it.


Wow, I see from the dealer label in the photos that this was originally sold right here in my own home town of La Crosse, WI!


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 9:25 am 
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Hi George,

Yes they certainly do exude class, to me anyway and as you note the carving on the feet is somewhat different, more pronounced and less knurled than I've seen on other A250s.

In the very last picture of my second posting you can see in the lower left inside back of the machine a paper tag that says, "Edison Cabinet Factory No. 3". If you blow the picture up to full size you can see it.

You can also see "1286" stamped into the wood of the bottom of the cabinet in the back behind the horn in the same picture. Not sure what that means. Any ideas?

The serial number, "SM 12887" is stamped on the metal Tag. "12887-A1" is stamped on the bedplate and "12887" is typed on a piece of thick oily piece of heavy paper or cardboard in the bottom front underneath the horn, to dark to be visible in the picture.

Tinkerbell wrote:
Wow, I see from the dealer label in the photos that this was originally sold right here in my own home town of La Crosse, WI!


Yes a collector in St. Paul MN got it from the estate of the original purchaser who bought it from a Lacrosse Edison Dealer. I got it from him.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:34 am 
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The collector in me always wants the wood and finish that's the most unusual but there is something truly elegant in a fine original mahogany finish. Thanks for sharing. Jerry Blais


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:01 am 
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Ohh Valenik, you have no idea how my heart yearns for an A250 and this one is lovely. One question: does the horn in this one come apart at the elbow like a Cygnet horn? I know the earliest A 250's did, and I wondered how long they used that type of horn .

Jim


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 11:05 am 
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Ooops - I failed to blow up that last photo - NOW I see that Cabinet Factory number! Sure wish I knew which company "No. 3" signified. Someday a list will surface at West Orange... As for the "1826", it's a mystery to me. I suspect it was for internal use at the cabinet factory. I also see that the license sticker is dated August 1914 - - late indeed for an A-250. Again, nice machine - -

George P.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:25 pm 
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phonogfp wrote:
Ooops - I failed to blow up that last photo - NOW I see that Cabinet Factory number! Sure wish I knew which company "No. 3" signified. Someday a list will surface at West Orange... As for the "1826", it's a mystery to me. I suspect it was for internal use at the cabinet factory. I also see that the license sticker is dated August 1914 - - late indeed for an A-250. Again, nice machine - -

George P.


Thanks George. I did not notice the Aug 1914 license sticker. That would indeed confirm it's very late for an A250.

Lenoirstreetguy wrote:
Ohh Valenik, you have no idea how my heart yearns for an A250 and this one is lovely. One question: does the horn in this one come apart at the elbow like a Cygnet horn? I know the earliest A 250's did, and I wondered how long they used that type of horn .

Jim


Jim, it still has the two piece cygnet style horn, mounts on two pegs on the bottom and a third peg on the top is held in place by a clip, cygnet style, a real bugger to get back together too. It was separated when I got it.

Jerry B. wrote:
The collector in me always wants the wood and finish that's the most unusual but there is something truly elegant in a fine original mahogany finish. Thanks for sharing. Jerry Blais


I agree with you on the mahogany. Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 58
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 3:11 pm 
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Beautiful machine Bruce! That model is definitely near the top of my "most wanted" list.
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