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 Post subject: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:43 am 
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Victor O
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VV-XIV (2), VE-111, VV-IX, Columbia 50, VV-IV
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Make: Victor Victrola
Model: VV-XIV
Serial # 9002
Year(s) Made: 1910-1921
Number Produced: 264,601
Original Cost (1910):: $150.00
Case/Cabinet Size: Cabinet 3'11" H x 1' 10.5" W x 1' 11.6" D
Turntable/Mandrel: 12 inch turntable
Reproducer/Sound-Box: Victor Exhibition (Victor #2 after 1918)
Motor: Nickel Plated 3 Spring (4 spring motor used on later production models)
Horn Dimensions: Internal Horn
Reproduction Parts: n/a
Current Value: $800 (for early model)
Interesting Facts: The Victrola XIV was introduced to offer the potential customer a cabinet model internal horn machine that was less costly than the model XVI. It used the same basic parts of the more expensive machine, but was done in a smaller case. The one here is from the first two years of production. At that time the Victrola XIV had a very distinctive case design that was made to resemble Queen Anne style furniture. In 1912 the cabinet design was changed and the machine no longer had a look all of it's own but resembled a larger version of the Victrola XI.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 11:47 am 
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Love it! The serial # on yours is low 9000, I've wondered how many of these were made, mine is in the low 5000s. As you know, I have the same machine in oak. They're not common and it's one of my favorite machines just because of the "wow" factor with that grain!

Excellent!

Sean


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:05 pm 
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Such a classy looking Victrola~! The beautiful oak stock that Victor used really adds to the appeal, and is a welcome change (to me, at any rate) from the usual mahogany that Victor seemed to use. I guess Victor was simply responding to the demand of the day---judging by the surviving examples of oak vs mahogany machines.

I'm curious....the back panel drops down to reveal----another back panel?


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 12:22 pm 
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Kirkwood wrote:

I'm curious....the back panel drops down to reveal----another back panel?


That's just plain weird lol. And what's with all the bolts/screws? I guess the 4 central ones must support the horn?
Good place to hide your stocks & bonds I guess...or your reefer :lol:

It's a handsome machine thought. I dont think HMV made one quite like it.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:22 pm 
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VV-XIV (2), VE-111, VV-IX, Columbia 50, VV-IV
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I agree on the comments on the back panel on these machines. When I fist got it home and noticed the way it was designed, I really thought it was strange. The only thing I can figure was to hide the bolts that were holding the horn to the case, but it seems to be really over engineered considering it is the back of the machine. :?:


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:29 pm 
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that's a beautiful example of a scarce phonograph - especially in oak. nice.

but is there something unusual about the design and shape of the horn? I haven't seen any internal straight horn victor machines before where the horn was mounted to the rear of the cabinet like that... strange. usually that panel on the cabinet's back, whether hinged or screwed on, was to get the horn in and out, because it wouldn't fit through the opening in the front or where the motor board mounts.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 1:53 pm 
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Brian,

There isn't, it's just an oddity in design. I'd forgotten about that myself. My XIV has been against the wall in my office for awhile! For the record, it's a very heavy machine, heavier than your typical Victor.

Sean


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 1:56 am 
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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 2:24 am 
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Wow. Beautifully grained oak, impossible to reproduce today. A very attractive piece of furniture !!


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph № 62
PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:23 am 
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Beartiful machine. The oak finish is beautiful and that early design is in my opinion so much more attractive than later when they just made the XIV a slightly smaller version of the XVI.

Lot's of big, great. detailed pictures provided too. Thank alot for posting.


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