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 Post subject: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 10:46 am 
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Victor III
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Make: National Phonograph Co.
Model: ALVA
Serial # 74151
Years: 1907-1912
Original Cost: $85.00 in 1907, and was increased to $100.00 on 1911.
Case/Cabinet Size: Oak Case L 18 ½ in. x D 12 ¾ in. x H 14 ⅜ in.
Turntable: 2 ¼" Diameter 2 or 4 Minute Cylinders
Soundbox: Model O (2 & 4 min)
Motor: Edison Universal Electric
Horn: Oak Music Master Cygnet
Horn Dimensions: -----
Repro Parts: Case is a home made Edison Concert repro made by Art Wilmoth. Original case would have been a Triumph B-F case with raised side panels, no hole for crank, and two ventilation holes drilled in case bottom.
Current Value: -----
Interesting Facts: Mechanism is completely original including finish, motor resistor underneath, and original power cord which screwed into a light socket! Factory installed Model D repeater. Runs on either AC or DC power, also has special numbered plate on upper bed plate below carriage for positioning carriage. This machine was part of the Art Wilmoth collection. Art was one of the original Edison phonograph collectors who was in the hobby from 1932 to 1989. He even cast his own Model O reproducer upper housings. In the machine was a card written by Art Wilmoth stating the following: "First machine in this collection- 1932-cost 3.50 with 150 new cylinder records."

The motor is extremely quiet and produces a very constant speed making the machine one of the best sounding machines I have owned.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:39 am 
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A new blank with authentic formula and spiral core!
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Location: 615 1/2 South Main Street Princeton IL 61356.
Very beautiful machine, It is basically an electrified model F very rare!!! Thank You for sharing.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 11:48 am 
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Edison Records - Close your eyes and see if the artist does not actually seem to be before you.
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Fantastic piece with a great history. Amazing Art Wilmouth was already looking for things like this as early as 1932. I'd imagine there were still a few in use then.

Thanks for posting.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 12:00 pm 
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Fabulous machine with a great history. I was fortunate to meet Art Wilmoth back in the seventies. I love the fancy case. Jerry Blais


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 1:26 pm 
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Who is John Galt?
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Not many Alvas around - - thanks for sharing yours!

George P.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 3:08 pm 
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Nice machine!

I'm trying to complete a similar machine, a model B which passed through the hands of the infamous Bob Adams, of Cleveland Ohio.

The original motor had a badly burned commutator, a motor shop quoted the "outrageous" sum of $50.00 to fix it, and so Adams cobbled an Ekonowatt motor from a later Ediphone in as a replacement. I've been looking for the rectangular cast aluminum motor for years now. As I wish to play four minute records, I've fitted the machine with a combination attachment with a proper, large pulley and planetary gear form an Antipodean source. The combination unit works wonderfully well.

From the same source, I have a set of Idelia lid lid hardware, and a full set of Idelia mouldings, in pearwood. I once owned an Idelia with a gilded cabinet with Watteau scenes painted thereon (a family piece, unfortunately missing the lid) which had suffered a broken base moulding. I was intending to repair the machine until it was destroyed in my late fire. The mouldings had just arrived in the mail and so were in the house at the time of the conflagration.


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 4:21 pm 
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So, would this be the same electric motor as used on Ediphones of the same year?


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:20 pm 
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Phototone wrote:
So, would this be the same electric motor as used on Ediphones of the same year?


The same motor was used on the Edison Business Machines (later called Ediphones) but it had a different nameplate (Edison Business Phonograph Co.) on it and I believe the resistor was mounted on the back of case on the outside. See picture of motor with nameplate....


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2012 5:28 pm 
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Here is information and pricing on the Alva from a 1911 catalog....


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 Post subject: Re: Featured Phonograph No. 87
PostPosted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:05 am 
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Andersun wrote:
"First machine in this collection- 1932-cost 3.50 with 150 new cylinder records."

Nice presentation of a very desirable Edison model! Everybody should have the opportunity to begin a phonograph collection with a rare machine offered cheaply.


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