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 Post subject: 5" Berliner #458
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:36 pm 
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A kind and generous individual loaned me 5" Berliner #458 for duplication and I just finished the first copy this evening. It's such a strange disc, the print below the spindle hole is the German patent info, so there's no song title. The disc is incredibly smooth and the sound quality is surprisingly good. The speed is high (~100rpm-ish) so playback time is short, but the strangest part is the material the disc is made of. It's not rubber or shellac but celluloid. The disc is thin and smooth, and feels like the material Blue Amberols are made of.
An upload of it playing will soon follow.


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 Post subject: Re: 5" Berliner #458
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 10:56 pm 
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That is pretty awesome, can’t wait to see the video . Do you expect to offer copies for sale? If so count me in for one.


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 Post subject: Re: 5" Berliner #458
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Ah, yes: I recall reading that Berliner had tried celluloid in his earliest pressings, but found it did not wear well: hence the move to vulcanite, and finally shellac. :geek:

Again, if you do decide to sell copies, I'm in.

Bill


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 Post subject: Re: 5" Berliner #458
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I'd be a buyer for a copy as well. Please let me know.


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 Post subject: Re: 5" Berliner #458
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Count me in for one too... :D.


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 Post subject: Re: 5" Berliner #458
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Same here!


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 Post subject: Re: 5" Berliner #458
PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:41 pm 
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Me too! Probably the closest I'll ever get to having a record from the 1880s.


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 Post subject: Re: 5" Berliner #458
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Me too... be careful with it (the original), as it's worth several thousand dollars... maybe more...
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 Post subject: Re: 5" Berliner #458
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I'd love a copy too. What's the recording?


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 Post subject: Re: 5" Berliner #458
PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2018 4:31 am 
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Fantastic to see that a collector with a decent 5" record opened up to this.

As far as I can make out the title it is "Hohenfriedberger", which would usually relate to a march.

Please count me in for 3 copies.


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