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 Post subject: Diamond Disc label confusion.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 10:15 pm 
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Have you ever come across this before?
Two of the records I bought are duplicates of ones I already have, but with different labels. They have the same record numbers, aside from one being a different take. Did they repress records and keep all the numbers the same, including matrix numbers? I'm confused.

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 Post subject: Re: Diamond Disc label confusion.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:27 pm 
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Edison used a master for as long as possible, even after the label design changed. That means you can find older and newer labels on different sides of the same record. He would usually only change the design on the label if the selection had to be re-recorded, but there are exceptions. That's why you can't date the pressing of a Diamond Disk based just on the label.

Edison started using paper labels in 1921, and by 1922 had switched to using paper labels for all issues, even reissues.

Your engraved copy of Birthday of a King has an "A12" pressing code visible below the Edison signature, indicating it was pressed in December of 1916. The paper label version would have been pressed between 1923 and 1926.

See Copland and Sherman's excellent "Collector's Guide to Edison Records" for more details.


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 Post subject: Re: Diamond Disc label confusion.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2018 11:31 pm 
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Thanks. I'm always learning something new.
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