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Victor 22640 vs Brunswick 4653 Casey Jones Special
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 2:33 am
by Vinrage_mania
ok I know both are Andy Kirk and His 12 “clouds of joy “...when they are not Blanche and her Joy boys that is not the odd part
the record is on Two different labels ,three if you count the British Parlorphone how is that possable? .I have not looked at recording dates yet but really odd
Re: Victor 22640 vs Brunswick 4653 Casey Jones Special
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:37 am
by Viva-voce
Interesting--are the Casey Jones records similar arrangements?
I have the Brunswick 4653 listed in my Trader post but I haven't heard the Victor recording.
Steven
Re: Victor 22640 vs Brunswick 4653 Casey Jones Special
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 11:09 am
by Vinrage_mania
I think it is the same arrangement same everything . the musicians are the same,I have not timed them ,but both are on you tube. 4671 sold
Re: Victor 22640 vs Brunswick 4653 Casey Jones Special
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 12:34 pm
by gramophone-georg
Vinnie, you are on to something.
Two different recording dates and locations- Calloway March 1931 in Camden and Kirk November 1929 in Kansas City, but Calloway's personnel is basically the Kirk band of 1930 with Mary Lou Williams and Andy Kirk himself on this session.
Seems Kirk was on hiatus (or likely forced hiatus due to the Depression) at Brunswick during this time (last Brunswick session was December 1930), and didn't begin recording again until signing with Decca in 1936.
Re: Victor 22640 vs Brunswick 4653 Casey Jones Special
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 3:19 pm
by Viva-voce
Vinrage_mania wrote:I think it is the same arrangement same everything . the musicians are the same,I have not timed them ,but both are on you tube. 4671 sold
Very interesting comparisons--thanks!
Re: Victor 22640 vs Brunswick 4653 Casey Jones Special
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 5:05 pm
by Vinrage_mania
Viva-voce wrote:Interesting--are the Casey Jones records similar arrangements?
I have the Brunswick 4653 listed in my Trader post but I haven't heard the Victor recording.
Steven
this is a great record both sides!
,someone should grab it!
Re: Victor 22640 vs Brunswick 4653 Casey Jones Special
Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2018 9:28 pm
by gramophone-georg
Vinrage_mania wrote:Viva-voce wrote:Interesting--are the Casey Jones records similar arrangements?
I have the Brunswick 4653 listed in my Trader post but I haven't heard the Victor recording.
Steven
this is a great record both sides!
,someone should grab it!
ALL of the Kirk Brunswicks are great!
Re: Victor 22640 vs Brunswick 4653 Casey Jones Special
Posted: Fri Jun 29, 2018 3:53 pm
by Viva-voce
this is a great record both sides!
,someone should grab it![/quote]
Aw thanks
It's still available in the Trader section along with some other nice ones!
Steven