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 Post subject: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2019 9:57 am 
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I have a modest collection of 1920's jazz records and all are 10 inches in diameter. I have come across plenty of 12 inch classical records from the period, but not too many 12 inch jazz records. Are they particularly rare or was there an artist that recorded more 12 inch jazz records I should look for?
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 Post subject: Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
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All the ODJB's recordings for UK Columbia were issued in the 12 inch format, even though some would have fitted on a 10 inch disc.
The majority of Ciro's Club Coon Orchestra's UK Columbias were also 12 inch. They are not easy to find.


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 Post subject: Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
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audiophile102 wrote:
I have a modest collection of 1920's jazz records and all are 10 inches in diameter. I have come across plenty of 12 inch classical records from the period, but not too many 12 inch records. Are they particularly rare or was there an artist that recorded more 12 inch records I should look for?
Thanks. :)


The 12 inchers are scarce but pop up once in awhile. There are 12" releases by Paul Whiteman, Red Nichols, Carl Fenton, Guy Lombardo, Dorsey Bros. Orchestra, George Olsen, Duke Ellington, Irving Mills, Louis Armstrong, Victor Young, and others that I have. While a few are from the acoustic era, most of these issues are from 1927 on and the majority of them seemed to be issued during the early Depression (aside from Whiteman discs) which accounts for their relative scarcity as they were more expensive.


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 Post subject: Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
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A lot of 12 inch jazz records are "Concert Jazz" compositions - many recorded by Whiteman. I've found few 12 inch records of jazz dance music - same for the Swing era. It see,s as if most popular music didn't fit well into the extended format.


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 Post subject: Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
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A lot of 12 inch jazz records are "Concert Jazz" compositions - many recorded by Whiteman. I've found few 12 inch records of jazz dance music - same for the Swing era. It see,s as if most popular music didn't fit well into the extended format.


A lot of the "concert jazz" selections are really quite good IMO. This topic got me going through some of my 12- inch popular series records and I also have releases in this format by Rudy Vallee and Anson Weeks. In the swing era there are great 12" sides by Fats Waller, Tommy Dorsey, Casa Loma,
Artie Shaw, Bunny Berigan, and Benny Goodman, to name a few. Dorsey/ Sinatra did a fine one- "Without A Song". Then there are Berigan's "I Can't Get Started", Goodman's "Sing Sing Sing", Artie Shaw's "Concerto For Clarinet", "Summertime", "The Maid With The Flaccid Air", etc., and even a very early Stan Kenton on a 12" Decca. I have to find it and get the titles.

Goodman recorded some great Columbia sides on 12" with Helen Forrest also.


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 Post subject: Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
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Another UK 12 inch record not often seen is HMV C2885 "Origins of Jazz" in which Jack Hylton acts as compere, introducing several different recordings of "Tiger Rag" and "St.Louis Blues".


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 Post subject: Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
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I have a couple of 12in Paul Whiteman and Joseph C. Smith and Fred Nichols.


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 Post subject: Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
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Here are a few not mentioned, that I enjoy... :coffee:

Mary Lou Williams on Asch 1002
Frankie Carle on shaded Decca 15037
Miff Mole on Commodore 1518

James.


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 Post subject: Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
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Art Tatum on ARA and Comet in 1944-48 too, the original trio sessions and the solo album "Piano Impressions", many of which ran over 5 minutes and used every possible second of the 12-inch format.


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 Post subject: Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
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Commodore label is pretty low hanging fruit, as well some other recent mentions. Some V-Discs could be mentioned too. But the OP is asking about 1920's era.


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