I have a modest collection of 1920's jazz records and all are 10 inches in diameter. I have come across plenty of 12 inch classical records from the period, but not too many 12 inch jazz records. Are they particularly rare or was there an artist that recorded more 12 inch jazz records I should look for?
Thanks.
Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
- audiophile102
- Victor IV
- Posts: 1219
- Joined: Tue May 12, 2015 12:50 pm
- Personal Text: Say to yourself I am so happy hurray!
- Location: Brookfield, Illinois
Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
Last edited by audiophile102 on Sat Jun 29, 2019 10:33 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"You can't take the phonographs nor the money with you, but the contentment the phonographs bring may well make your life better, and happier lives make the world a better place."
-
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 5204
- Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:21 pm
- Personal Text: An analogue relic trapped in a digital world.
- Location: The Somerset Levels, UK.
Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
All the ODJB's recordings for UK Columbia were issued in the 12 inch format, even though some would have fitted on a 10 inch disc.
The majority of Ciro's Club Coon Orchestra's UK Columbias were also 12 inch. They are not easy to find.
The majority of Ciro's Club Coon Orchestra's UK Columbias were also 12 inch. They are not easy to find.
- gramophone-georg
- Victor VI
- Posts: 3984
- Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:55 pm
- Personal Text: Northwest Of Normal
- Location: Eugene/ Springfield Oregon USA
Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
The 12 inchers are scarce but pop up once in awhile. There are 12" releases by Paul Whiteman, Red Nichols, Carl Fenton, Guy Lombardo, Dorsey Bros. Orchestra, George Olsen, Duke Ellington, Irving Mills, Louis Armstrong, Victor Young, and others that I have. While a few are from the acoustic era, most of these issues are from 1927 on and the majority of them seemed to be issued during the early Depression (aside from Whiteman discs) which accounts for their relative scarcity as they were more expensive.audiophile102 wrote:I have a modest collection of 1920's jazz records and all are 10 inches in diameter. I have come across plenty of 12 inch classical records from the period, but not too many 12 inch records. Are they particularly rare or was there an artist that recorded more 12 inch records I should look for?
Thanks.
"He who dies with the most shellac wins"- some nutty record geek
I got PTSD from Peter F's avatar
I got PTSD from Peter F's avatar
-
- Victor Monarch
- Posts: 4172
- Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:23 pm
- Personal Text: I have good days...this might not be one of them
- Location: Albany NY
Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
A lot of 12 inch jazz records are "Concert Jazz" compositions - many recorded by Whiteman. I've found few 12 inch records of jazz dance music - same for the Swing era. It see,s as if most popular music didn't fit well into the extended format.
- gramophone-georg
- Victor VI
- Posts: 3984
- Joined: Mon Jan 20, 2014 11:55 pm
- Personal Text: Northwest Of Normal
- Location: Eugene/ Springfield Oregon USA
Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
A lot of the "concert jazz" selections are really quite good IMO. This topic got me going through some of my 12- inch popular series records and I also have releases in this format by Rudy Vallee and Anson Weeks. In the swing era there are great 12" sides by Fats Waller, Tommy Dorsey, Casa Loma,estott wrote:A lot of 12 inch jazz records are "Concert Jazz" compositions - many recorded by Whiteman. I've found few 12 inch records of jazz dance music - same for the Swing era. It see,s as if most popular music didn't fit well into the extended format.
Artie Shaw, Bunny Berigan, and Benny Goodman, to name a few. Dorsey/ Sinatra did a fine one- "Without A Song". Then there are Berigan's "I Can't Get Started", Goodman's "Sing Sing Sing", Artie Shaw's "Concerto For Clarinet", "Summertime", "The Maid With The Flaccid Air", etc., and even a very early Stan Kenton on a 12" Decca. I have to find it and get the titles.
Goodman recorded some great Columbia sides on 12" with Helen Forrest also.
"He who dies with the most shellac wins"- some nutty record geek
I got PTSD from Peter F's avatar
I got PTSD from Peter F's avatar
-
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 5204
- Joined: Mon Oct 24, 2011 1:21 pm
- Personal Text: An analogue relic trapped in a digital world.
- Location: The Somerset Levels, UK.
Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
Another UK 12 inch record not often seen is HMV C2885 "Origins of Jazz" in which Jack Hylton acts as compere, introducing several different recordings of "Tiger Rag" and "St.Louis Blues".
-
- Victor V
- Posts: 2417
- Joined: Fri May 26, 2017 10:15 pm
- Location: A small town near Omaha, Nebraska
Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
I have a couple of 12in Paul Whiteman and Joseph C. Smith and Fred Nichols.
- Roaring20s
- Victor V
- Posts: 2550
- Joined: Wed Jun 13, 2012 1:55 am
- Personal Text: Those who were seen dancing were thought insane by those who could not hear the music. Nietzsche
- Location: Tucson, AZ
Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
Here are a few not mentioned, that I enjoy...
Mary Lou Williams on Asch 1002
Frankie Carle on shaded Decca 15037
Miff Mole on Commodore 1518
James.
Mary Lou Williams on Asch 1002
Frankie Carle on shaded Decca 15037
Miff Mole on Commodore 1518
James.
-
- Victor I
- Posts: 191
- Joined: Mon Nov 21, 2016 10:49 pm
Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
Art Tatum on ARA and Comet in 1944-48 too, the original trio sessions and the solo album "Piano Impressions", many of which ran over 5 minutes and used every possible second of the 12-inch format.
- Wolfe
- Victor V
- Posts: 2755
- Joined: Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:52 pm
Re: Question About 12 inch 78rpm Records
Commodore label is pretty low hanging fruit, as well some other recent mentions. Some V-Discs could be mentioned too. But the OP is asking about 1920's era.