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i bought a blue amberol cylinder of The Preacher and the Bear by Arthur Collins at the Wayne Expo, its from around 1912 or 1913 and has an announcement. is that normal? i found another copy of it https://cylinders.library.ucsb.edu/deta ... 6&r=2&of=2

There were three versions of The Preacher and The Bear on Blue Amberols;
First version:Flat title end,no announcing.
Second version: Beveled end with announcing (taken from wax Amberol #18).
Third version:Beveled end, dubbed from Diamond Disc.
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oh, mine has a flat end and the announcement. its no. 1560

BA23330 (British Series) "Cavalry Charge" played by the Edison Military Band is also announced.

There are a few announced Blue Amberols. Search the board for more info.

The announced copy of Preacher and the Bear is "take 2", as evidenced by 2 dots ("..") after the word "Pat'd" on the rim.

[quote"take 2", as evidenced by 2 dots ("..") after the word "Pat'd" on the rim.][/quote]
this cylinder keeps getting weirder and weirder cus it no dots to indicate take 2 on the rim.

The announced version was made from 4 minute wax Amberol masters. I am of the opinion that it was re-recorded very early in the celluloid era in order to give an unannounced BA for sale. I have the announced version on both 4 minute wax and Blue Amberol cylinders, the unannounced Blue Amberol (which is not a dub but a live cylinder recording), the dub from Diamond Disc and the 2 minute Edison wax cylinder version. Along with all of that, I have it on a 4 minute U. S. Everlasting cylinder and a Victor batwing... all by Arthur Collins.