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Cleaning HMV reentrant grill cloth

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:08 am
by Sterling
Anyone have any proven tips to remove a (recent) oil stain from a late 1920’s HMV reentrant gold grille cloth?

Thoughts appreciated

Sterling

Re: Cleaning HMV reentrant grill cloth

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:11 pm
by estott
try dusting it with chalk or talcum to absorb the oil, then you will brush and vacuum to remove the powder

Re: Cleaning HMV reentrant grill cloth

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:53 pm
by JerryVan
The best tip I can give is to leave it alone. Almost all of that cloth has become extremely delicate and will most likely disintegrate with any cleaning attempts.

Re: Cleaning HMV reentrant grill cloth

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2018 10:09 pm
by martinola
Although in some respects I agree with Jerry, if it were mine, I'd try to remove it (with the frame) and blot it with Naptha (Lighter Fluid). It would be risky, but I can't think staying soaked in oil would do it any good in the long term.

Martin

Re: Cleaning HMV reentrant grill cloth

Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:59 pm
by rvwenger
I posted this not to long ago: http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =7&t=35617

Great advice. Leave it alone.

Re: Cleaning HMV reentrant grill cloth

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:52 pm
by Sterling
The grille cloth was cleaned with smoke sponge and white sprit by professional textile restorers, Janie Lightfoot Textiles LLP, London NW10 4JG. There's a slight ghosting of the oil marks - but am very happy with this result. So nothing's impossible!

Re: Cleaning HMV reentrant grill cloth

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:13 pm
by alang
That looks great! Congratulations!

Andreas

Re: Cleaning HMV reentrant grill cloth

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 3:45 pm
by Curt A
It looks really good... What is smoke sponge?

Re: Cleaning HMV reentrant grill cloth

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2018 4:06 pm
by Curt A
I decided to answer my own question and it looks like these might be very useful for restorations... Also called chemical sponges although they don't contain any chemicals... :?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Jv9_wN ... gs=pl%2Cwn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXus2HN ... gs=pl%2Cwn