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 Post subject: Govenor Help
PostPosted: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:22 pm 
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Victor Jr
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Attached are pics of the govenor on my new Columbia Grafonola Nonpareil. I have a problem with the govenor weights. They appear to be made of plaster. They are deteriorated and coming apart. They cannot be touched or they will crumbe. A few plays and the bottom of the motor box and mechanism is covered with residu from the weights.

Do any of you know of anything I can paint on to the weights to preserve them or know where I might be able to get replacements? Looking for advice or ideas.

Thanks in advance

Tom

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 Post subject: Re: Govenor Help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 5:12 pm 
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Victor Z
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I think your best bet is to replace the governor or at least the weights.
I have never seen plaster governor weights, but I am not too familiar with
Columbias. In any case they are shot for sure.

I get stuff like that from George, he tends to have the best prices:

http://www.worldofgramophones.com/repairgeorge.html


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 Post subject: Re: Govenor Help
PostPosted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 6:19 pm 
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I've seen that look before! They definitely are lead weights that are
deteriorating because of past exposure to too much moisture. No telling how that happened, because the rest of the machine looks pretty good. There really is no choice but to replace them. You might try Antique Phonograph Supply Co. for a pair. Because they were riveted on the springs by Columbia, you'll have to get those as well. Good luck. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Govenor Help
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 8:51 am 
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The white stuff is lead oxide. Kind of like rust for lead. It poses no problems for your governor. Just knock off the flakes and lightly oil them to prevent further oxidation. It looks worse than it really is.


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 Post subject: Re: Govenor Help
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:42 am 
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Isn't this the stuff in "lead" paint? Looks like it would make a nice white pigment. If I were you, I wouldn't touch it or breathe it. OTOH, I grew up in the era of leaded gasoline and house paint, so I'm probably addled anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Govenor Help
PostPosted: Fri Aug 13, 2010 9:42 pm 
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Many thanks to all for your advice. Went ahead and cleaned the weights off. Not nearly as bad as they looked. There was shiny lead underneath. Cleaned the oxidation off and added a light coat of oil and they are as good as new. Also adjusted the govenor and now it works perfectly with the correct record speed in the middle of the speed scale. Great forum, thanks for the help.

Tom


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