I wired a stereo phono cartridge for Vertical discs based on the information shown at the following TMF link.
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... 10#p199470
I feel it worked really well on this Acoustic 1925 Diamond Disc. I have not recorded one of these records before so I don't have anything to compare it to. I would love feedback from those of you that have recorded Diamond Disc records. I will try an Electrically recorded record next. I only have a few, but I will look for a clean one to record.
[youtubehd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq3B_DvPvC0[/youtubehd]
I transferred the record using Audacity and then amplified the capture. From there I used the programs ClickRepair and DeNoise and tried not to go too far with either. There is always quite a lot of surface noise when you play Diamond Discs on an Edison machine. It is here too and I removed some of it but if I take more of it out the transfer is very poor sounding. I think this is a pretty good. It was a fun project getting the cartridge wired up even with my older fingers that don't like to work on small things any longer.
My First Diamond Disc transfer
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Sounds quite good, except a little (more) high pass filtering could eliminate that low frequency groove noise where there's no music content.
What kins of cartridge / stylus did you use ? Shure N78S ?
What kins of cartridge / stylus did you use ? Shure N78S ?
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Yes, it sounds good and thanks for sharing it.
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Thanks for the comments and suggestion. I am struggling a bit with more high pass filtering with the software I have. I played with some things after reading the manual but I just made it worse. I think I need to do a bit more study to figure out exactly how to do that properly.Wolfe wrote:Sounds quite good, except a little (more) high pass filtering could eliminate that low frequency groove noise where there's no music content.
What kins of cartridge / stylus did you use ? Shure N78S ?
As for the cartridge and sylus; I do use a Shure N78s for my normal 78 disc recordings. But, I have another cartridge I wired for vertical recording so I could swap heads out on my turntable. It is a LP Gear AT9578 with what they said was a 78 stylus. They say it is 3 mil cartridge, but I do not believe that is the case. Or they put the wrong stylus on it when I ordered it. I am fairly sure what I got was an LP stylus. It plays LPs and Diamond Discs well, but not 78 records. It seems to be a pretty good cartridge for what I am using it for. Do you know of it?
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I've not owned the AT9578. I do use LP Gear for my record playing needs and have so far not had a bad experience.
I remember not liking the DeNoise program very much. I do very much like and use often the same authors' Click Repair.
Audacity is free and provides more range of tools for 78 transfers all in one place, though what I really like is WavePad, but it costs 35 bucks.
I remember not liking the DeNoise program very much. I do very much like and use often the same authors' Click Repair.
Audacity is free and provides more range of tools for 78 transfers all in one place, though what I really like is WavePad, but it costs 35 bucks.
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Sounds great, and such a fantastic song!
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I'm glad that my quest for understanding the wiring was helpful for you.melvind wrote:I wired a stereo phono cartridge for Vertical discs based on the information shown at the following TMF link.
http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... 10#p199470
I feel it worked really well on this Acoustic 1925 Diamond Disc. I have not recorded one of these records before so I don't have anything to compare it to. I would love feedback from those of you that have recorded Diamond Disc records. I will try an Electrically recorded record next. I only have a few, but I will look for a clean one to record.
[youtubehd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vq3B_DvPvC0[/youtubehd]
I transferred the record using Audacity and then amplified the capture. From there I used the programs ClickRepair and DeNoise and tried not to go too far with either. There is always quite a lot of surface noise when you play Diamond Discs on an Edison machine. It is here too and I removed some of it but if I take more of it out the transfer is very poor sounding. I think this is a pretty good. It was a fun project getting the cartridge wired up even with my older fingers that don't like to work on small things any longer.
That is a very nice recording of a great tune. I am also playing around with the best way to play DDs and found that I get less hiss with an LP stylus compared to a 3 mil 78 stylus - at least on the handful records I tried. It seems to be advantageous to have the small stylus read the very bottom of the groove that has not been reached by an Edison DD Reproducer. Once I find the time to clean and record all my DDs I will see if that assumption holds true for all of them.
Thanks for sharing this great recording.
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I've found LP styli to work well with DD's too, but not always, and not with other kinds of vertically cut discs.
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I think the groove of a Pathé will be way too big for this stylus. I will probably need a larger one eventually. But, others have said it is hard to get a modern stylus to track a Pathé record too. So, who knows.Wolfe wrote:I've found LP styli to work well with DD's too, but not always, and not with other kinds of vertically cut discs.
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I found a really clean electric Diamond Disc to transfer. I made a few modifications in the software, but I think most of the improvement comes from the cleaner record and the electric recording. Nice sound I think. A nice recording. I also recorded the other side which is Moonlit Waters with Vaughn De Leath. You can find that on my YouTube channel.
[youtubehd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGZbbhPxOFM[/youtubehd]
[youtubehd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGZbbhPxOFM[/youtubehd]