You're right, Bill. If you exclude the English machines and their stern Victorian air(except maybe for the extravagant Melba model), French Pathé made great looking ornate models, Spanish HMV had colorful machines, the German and Swiss also made some ornate machines, and as we see in this thread, Eastern Europe also produced great looking ones!Lucius1958 wrote:I must admit: for sheer glamor, European machines left their American rivals in the dust...
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Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
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Beautiful machines! First time I've run across them.
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I would agree, and I want to add the machine in the original posting is a real stunner. Beautiful!Lucius1958 wrote:I must admit: for sheer glamor, European machines left their American rivals in the dust...
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That said, I have the impression American *motors* tended to be more robust and powerful than their (at least continental) European counterparts. Or perhaps I've just been unlucky in the European machines that have come my way?
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You have no idea about many things!!! Here is a gramophone with a rare motor.Dimensions 48x48 cm.
I would agree, and I want to add the machine in the original posting is a real stunner. Beautiful!
That said, I have the impression American *motors* tended to be more robust and powerful than their (at least continental) European counterparts. Or perhaps I've just been unlucky in the European machines that have come my way?
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I once saw a complete gramophone with the case from the first picture on an auction, but they wanted about 4000 euro for it. I wonder what is the value of Syrena machinesmaestro2009 wrote:You have no idea about many things!!! Here is a gramophone with a rare motor.Dimensions 48x48 cm.
I would agree, and I want to add the machine in the original posting is a real stunner. Beautiful!
That said, I have the impression American *motors* tended to be more robust and powerful than their (at least continental) European counterparts. Or perhaps I've just been unlucky in the European machines that have come my way?
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Form 1912 this ad shows the manufacturer of the metal parts found on your Syrena.
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The best motors ever made were from the European continent and then the UK. My guess is that you have not had much exposure to the high end product from European marks, Parlophone, Pathé and Paillard.drh wrote:I would agree, and I want to add the machine in the original posting is a real stunner. Beautiful!Lucius1958 wrote:I must admit: for sheer glamor, European machines left their American rivals in the dust...
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That said, I have the impression American *motors* tended to be more robust and powerful than their (at least continental) European counterparts. Or perhaps I've just been unlucky in the European machines that have come my way?
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The machine is an absolute beauty. As others have said I sincerely appreciate seeing rare high quality machines I've never seen before.
Congratulations on a great restoration from another collector of odd rare and decorative models
Congratulations on a great restoration from another collector of odd rare and decorative models
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Steve, most probable to the enormous proliferation of the smaller Thorens motors and their ready availability. Many manufacturers (or later restorers) used these motors even in the largest machines, and that's the most we find today. Big good quality gramophones with those old huge Swiss and German motors are a rarity!
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