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 Post subject: DVD released of restored Edison 1913 Kinetophone sound-films
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:24 am 
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News article here: https://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2018/08/thomas_edison.html?utm_content=nj_twitter_njentertainment&utm_campaign=njentertainment_sf&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social


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 Post subject: Re: DVD released of restored Edison 1913 Kinetophone sound-f
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:47 am 
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Jerry Fabris wrote:



The conductor in the still from "Edison Minstrels" is Eugene Jaudas. The singers are doubtless Edison regulars. The Interlocutor is a young Arthur Housman, who was in films up to his 1942 death - generally playing drunks.


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Thank you, Jerry.

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I pre-ordered this a week or so ago and just received my copy today. It's a remarkable DVD! These films must have absolutely blown viewer's minds back in 1913.

I'm sure this digitally restored version looks and sounds better than the originals did over 100 years ago. Still, it surprises me that they were able to record with so much clarity given that the horn was in the rafters above the performers. It must have been challenging to do these 6-minute stories in a single take.


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Some earlier efforts at sound pictures are posted at this German source. The sound is much superior - because the actors are miming along with commercial recordings: http://www.filmportal.de/video/ein-walz ... nr-92-1908


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Astounding!!! The sychronization is unbelievable. I didn't know they had reels of raw film that long or a disc(?) or cylinder(?) that ran that long.

Thanks for posting.


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Listening to the excellent documentary, the mention of a 1933 attempt to synchronize "Jack
s Joke" is interesting- Edward Boulden and Arthur Housman were still living, if it had been successfully presented we might have had their reactions.

Just one little point- the documentary gives the impression that the Higham Amplifier pantograph cut directly into celluloid.


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After the initial surprise, the Edison talking pictures bombed completely. The sync failed, the subjects were dumb, the acting was stilted, etc etc. Without electrical recording & amplification, there was no chance. It was a brave attempt, but about 15 years too soon!


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Edisone wrote:
After the initial surprise, the Edison talking pictures bombed completely. The sync failed, the subjects were dumb, the acting was stilted, etc etc. Without electrical recording & amplification, there was no chance. It was a brave attempt, but about 15 years too soon!


Like the LP diamond discs....


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drh wrote:
Edisone wrote:
After the initial surprise, the Edison talking pictures bombed completely. The sync failed, the subjects were dumb, the acting was stilted, etc etc. Without electrical recording & amplification, there was no chance. It was a brave attempt, but about 15 years too soon!


Like the LP diamond discs....

^^^ Hear, hear!

I received my "copy" a few days ago, and despite the negatives in regard to the performances and subjects filmed, the resulting "Kinetophones" is (must have been) really astonishing -- IMHO. I enjoy seeing early acting/filming techniques, and the realization of how those techniques evolved over the next couple of decades.

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