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 Post subject: Last Victor Orthophonic Batwing Label?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 12:30 am 
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I had always thought that the last batwing orthophonic records were in the mid-late 19000 series but I just found 20045 on an orthophonic batwing label recorded in May, 1926. And it is in E or better condition. Cool!

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 Post subject: Re: Last Victor Orthophonic Batwing Label?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:43 am 
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That is cool. I have a 10" electrical red seal batwing of Rosa Ponselle singing two songs by Tosti on Victor 1164, recorded May 18, 1926. What a charming and delightful record! I would imagine this one and yours would have been released sometime during the summer of that year, so it would have appeared on batwing for maybe only a couple of months before the Scroll label was first used. Interesting.

Steven


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 Post subject: Re: Last Victor Orthophonic Batwing Label?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2018 4:39 pm 
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Viva-voce wrote:
That is cool. I have a 10" electrical red seal batwing of Rosa Ponselle singing two songs by Tosti on Victor 1164, recorded May 18, 1926. What a charming and delightful record! I would imagine this one and yours would have been released sometime during the summer of that year, so it would have appeared on batwing for maybe only a couple of months before the Scroll label was first used. Interesting.

Steven

The highest one I have is 20099, an oakland pressing like your 20045


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 Post subject: Re: Last Victor Orthophonic Batwing Label?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:26 pm 
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I find it strange and interesting that it is a batwing but it says orthophonic on the label!


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 Post subject: Re: Last Victor Orthophonic Batwing Label?
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dennis wrote:
I find it strange and interesting that it is a batwing but it says orthophonic on the label!

usually you will find that marking is particular to the Oakland pressings


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 Post subject: Re: Last Victor Orthophonic Batwing Label?
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According to the Sherman book (p85) 20101 is the highest 10 inch popular series Batwing reported so far. "orthophonic" on the label indicates Fall 1926.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Victor Orthophonic Batwing Label?
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Highest regular issue on Wing Label to my knowledge. Recorded 28 and 30 Jun 1926. "B" side is "Black Bottom" by Johnny Hamp's Kentucky Serenaders.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Victor Orthophonic Batwing Label?
PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:31 am 
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msherman wrote:
Highest regular issue on Wing Label to my knowledge. Recorded 28 and 30 Jun 1926. "B" side is "Black Bottom" by Johnny Hamp's Kentucky Serenaders.

Seeing this label confirms my suspicion that the Oakland pressings lagged behind the Camden pressings in switching over to the scroll label..Fa! !ntastic to see this! Similarly, the Oakland pressings of Jan to Mar 1930 pressings still are branded "Victor talking machine division,Radio victor corporation" well after the east coast pressings were branded RCA victor..do not know why the time lag in both cases.You learn something every day!


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