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 Post subject: Interesting stamping on HMV mainsprings
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 8:28 pm 
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I was cleaning mainsprings from an HMV motor, circa 1925, and noticed this stamping on the ends of both. Was this common on both HMV and Victor springs?
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Also, the hardened grease was the worst I've ever encountered, even after soaking in solvent. I used a putty knife, wire brush on electric drill, and steel wool to hasten removal. It looked like steel filings coming off!
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 Post subject: Re: Interesting stamping on HMV mainsprings
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barnettrp21122 wrote:
I was cleaning mainsprings from an HMV motor, circa 1925, and noticed this stamping on the ends of both. Was this common on both HMV and Victor springs?
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His Master's Voice Mainspring stamping.jpg
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HMV motor detail.jpg


Also, the hardened grease was the worst I've ever encountered, even after soaking in solvent. I used a putty knife, wire brush on electric drill, and steel wool to hasten removal. It looked like steel filings coming off!
Bob



I thought that this is very interesting. I have no idea, but, does the dogs head look a bit odd / different ? Probably just me but it looks a bit like a ram or something ? :o
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 Post subject: Re: Interesting stamping on HMV mainsprings
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:04 pm 
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poodling around wrote:
barnettrp21122 wrote:
I was cleaning mainsprings from an HMV motor, circa 1925, and noticed this stamping on the ends of both. Was this common on both HMV and Victor springs?
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Also, the hardened grease was the worst I've ever encountered, even after soaking in solvent. I used a putty knife, wire brush on electric drill, and steel wool to hasten removal. It looked like steel filings coming off!
Bob



I thought that this is very interesting. I have no idea, but, does the dogs head look a bit odd / different ? Probably just me but it looks a bit like a ram or something ? :o

Here's a closer look at the stamping. Nipper almost looks more like a happy pig! :D
The whole impression is only a half-inch wide, so not much room for detail.
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 Post subject: Re: Interesting stamping on HMV mainsprings
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:11 pm 
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barnettrp21122 wrote:
poodling around wrote:
barnettrp21122 wrote:
I was cleaning mainsprings from an HMV motor, circa 1925, and noticed this stamping on the ends of both. Was this common on both HMV and Victor springs?
Attachment:
His Master's Voice Mainspring stamping.jpg
Attachment:
HMV motor detail.jpg


Also, the hardened grease was the worst I've ever encountered, even after soaking in solvent. I used a putty knife, wire brush on electric drill, and steel wool to hasten removal. It looked like steel filings coming off!
Bob



I thought that this is very interesting. I have no idea, but, does the dogs head look a bit odd / different ? Probably just me but it looks a bit like a ram or something ? :o

Here's a closer look at the stamping. Nipper almost looks more like a happy pig! :D
The whole impression is only a half-inch wide, so not much room for detail.
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HMV spring stamping detail.jpg



Wow!!! :o I have never heard of anything like this. I hope someone knows something.
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 Post subject: Re: Interesting stamping on HMV mainsprings
PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2019 11:22 pm 
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Hi Barnett,

I have rebuilt a 1907 or 1908 Victor III, a 1914 Victrola XIV, and a 1930 Victrola 2-65 portable. All these machines were totally original stock.

Both the Victor III and the XIV had the mainsprings stamped! The machines were 100% unmolested, just worn out and damaged. The springs were broken but the stampings were there.

I do not remember on the 2-65. The mainspring in it was in five pieces, count 'em, five, and I was too busy tossing spring chips out and marveling at its ruined state to bother. Should have paid attention but I was sixteen and stupid.

I hope we can get some more pictures of it! They're really neat and I think the Victor stamping on the springs is kind of a nifty little tradition from back in the day.


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 Post subject: Re: Interesting stamping on HMV mainsprings
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Bob,

I've overhauled several HMV machines of this vintage (HMV 511, 32, 163, 192 etc.), and yes, I noticed Nipper stamped on the end of the spring. Although I didn't recall that he was quite so rotund. :D And as you stated, the hardened grease was the worst I've encountered. It was petrified and I could only remove it by scraping with a blade. It was nearly impervious to the usual solvents.
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 Post subject: Re: Interesting stamping on HMV mainsprings
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The competition also stamped their springs !


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 Post subject: Re: Interesting stamping on HMV mainsprings
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emgcr wrote:
The competition also stamped their springs !


Interesting spring end! I recently cleaned a set of Garrard springs without looking for the stamping. I'll trust mine have them without going back to look! Thanks for the pic!
Bob
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