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 Post subject: Remanufactured L-door?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:07 pm 
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1912-Victrola- ... %7Ciid%3A1

I'm not sure what they mean by re-manufactured, but the finishing job is not to my taste.


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 Post subject: Re: Remanufactured L-door?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 5:55 pm 
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There have been a few exchanges with the seller who is a member here, including a thread which I believe shows a photo of this machine before it was stripped and ruin...I mean remanufactured.

Ahhh, found it - page 4 of this thread:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=39145&start=30

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 Post subject: Re: Remanufactured L-door?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 6:18 pm 
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Shoulda left it be, IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: Remanufactured L-door?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:37 pm 
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He caters to a different sort of buyer. (i.e. not collectors) At least it doesn't have wine bottles shoved in the speaker and that terrible chalk paint slobbered all over it.


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 Post subject: Re: Remanufactured L-door?
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2019 9:09 pm 
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JerryVan wrote:
He caters to a different sort of buyer. (i.e. not collectors) At least it doesn't have wine bottles shoved in the speaker and that terrible chalk paint slobbered all over it.


While I understand that and appreciate it, I still have an issue with it. Before we had the web and forums like this, I "remanufactured" a couple of VV-Xs. It was a different time, now there's no excuse to still be doing this kind if thing. Of course, that's just my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Remanufactured L-door?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:49 am 
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You also cannot get the color that Victor used on their cabinets using oil based stains. Victor dyed those cabinets with almost boiling hot water stain, but it was really a dye. And most people now really don't like the colors used on the furniture 100-120 years ago. Collectors are a different animal though. But if your whole house is full of "Ethan Allen Cherry" furniture, than this is a much closer match. Victorians for the most part really didn't get wrapped around the axle about everything in the house being exactly the same color. That really got to be a big deal after WWII. L-door Victrolas are nice, but they really aren't all that rare.

I refinished a mahogany C-19 40 years ago and got some lacquer based "mahogany" stain. It was made by "Blonde-it" for those of us old enough to remember that brand name. Anyway, it came out looking like a 1957 hollow core door and I thought it looked awful. It really was beyond awful. I had no idea what to do and they guy at the paint store said it would darken up when I put the finish on. Well, he was wrong and it still looked like a hollow core door. This was in 1981, so I just decided to take my lumps and put it on an auction to get rid of it. So I put a bunch of diamond disks in it and hauled it off, and that dumb ugly thing sold for $650.00! The most I have ever gotten out of a diamond disk machine. When the check came in the mail, I called the auctioneer because I thought he wrote the check out for the wrong amount. He said the people that got it were tickled to death with that thing. Oh well....


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 Post subject: Re: Remanufactured L-door?
PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2019 10:32 am 
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Monitors and cameras as well as lighting can all affect color as it appears online. Personally, I think it looks very nice. The Gold plating looks right. The cabinet has a nice warm glow and the grain of the Mahogany is very pronounced and beautiful. The shelf is missing the knob, but other than that, to my eye, it looks great. It may not be 100% hisorically correct, but it is a fine looking machine that would display well in a nice home.


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Django wrote:
Monitors and cameras as well as lighting can all affect color as it appears online. Personally, I think it looks very nice. The Gold plating looks right. The cabinet has a nice warm glow and the grain of the Mahogany is very pronounced and beautiful. The shelf is missing the knob, but other than that, to my eye, it looks great. It may not be 100% hisorically correct, but it is a fine looking machine that would display well in a nice home.

My thoughts exactly

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Django wrote:
Monitors and cameras as well as lighting can all affect color as it appears online. Personally, I think it looks very nice. The Gold plating looks right. The cabinet has a nice warm glow and the grain of the Mahogany is very pronounced and beautiful. The shelf is missing the knob, but other than that, to my eye, it looks great. It may not be 100% hisorically correct, but it is a fine looking machine that would display well in a nice home.

My thoughts exactly

Martin


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 Post subject: Re: Remanufactured L-door?
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Django wrote:
Monitors and cameras as well as lighting can all affect color as it appears online. Personally, I think it looks very nice. The Gold plating looks right. The cabinet has a nice warm glow and the grain of the Mahogany is very pronounced and beautiful. The shelf is missing the knob, but other than that, to my eye, it looks great. It may not be 100% hisorically correct, but it is a fine looking machine that would display well in a nice home.

My thoughts exactly

Martin


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