European Gramophones

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European Gramophones

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Grandes gramofones Europeus, motores potentes e silenciosos. O menor tem a caixa com 16,5" e o maior com a caixa de 19". Foram encontrados aqui mesmo em São Paulo, Brasil.
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Me gusta!

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Wow, just beautiful. For those that don't speak Portuguese, here is what Google Translate says his message says.
Great European gramophones, powerful and with quiet motors. The smallest has a case that is 16.5" and the largest with the case of 19". They were found right here in São Paulo, Brazil.

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melvind wrote:Wow, just beautiful. For those that don't speak Portuguese, here is what Google Translate says his message says.
Great European gramophones, powerful and with quiet motors. The smallest has a case that is 16.5" and the largest with the case of 19". They were found right here in São Paulo, Brazil.
Obrigado amigo, a tradução está boa. Corrigindo, o modelo que tem marchetaria e campânula Marrom estava no Rio de Janeiro e não em São Paulo.
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Very very nice. Your machines make our machines made in the States look rather plain.

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Jerry B. wrote:Very very nice. Your machines make our machines made in the States look rather plain.

Jerry Blais
Thanks Jerry, this is explained by the fact that there is a tradition of design more worked at this time in Europe, whereas in America (I include myself in this, after all we here in the South have suffered a very strong influence from you from the North) we had straight lines and simpler and more robust machines with more performance. I admit that lately I have been looking to look more at the European ones for the more decorated design and to have rare models since the numbers of production were much smaller than Victor or Columbia.
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I think that these are not "original" gramophones. These probably were made in the 80's like Banus gramophone (I think the one on the left is a Banu's). These are very good looking gramophones but they are not historical gramophones. I can make a hand made gramophone in 2018. But is this really an original gramophone? Yes, is an original gramophone but not an historical gramophone. They have the same value than a very ornate furniture. Soundboxes probably are the tipical HMV indian. And goose neck...

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gramotalk wrote:I think that these are not "original" gramophones. These probably were made in the 80's like Banus gramophone (I think the one on the left is a Banu's). These are very good looking gramophones but they are not historical gramophones. I can make a hand made gramophone in 2018. But is this really an original gramophone? Yes, is an original gramophone but not an historical gramophone. They have the same value than a very ornate furniture. Soundboxes probably are the tipical HMV indian. And goose neck...
I think you are way off with those comments. Andreas has posted several very nice pictures of his process of restoration and he has found and restored a number of wonderful machines. And, if you look at the pictures you will see they are not using Indian HMV parts at all. They are real!

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gramotalk wrote:I think that these are not "original" gramophones. These probably were made in the 80's like Banus gramophone (I think the one on the left is a Banu's). These are very good looking gramophones but they are not historical gramophones. I can make a hand made gramophone in 2018. But is this really an original gramophone? Yes, is an original gramophone but not an historical gramophone. They have the same value than a very ornate furniture. Soundboxes probably are the tipical HMV indian. And goose neck...
I'm sorry to say but you're mistaken, see for example this catalog of 1909 or else this illustration from a book on the subject, are European historical gramophones. Two of them certainly Germans. Another issue is the state of conservation that were found, you will surely change your mind when you see the photos.
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The correct photo for the middle gramophone
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