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 Post subject: Re: Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:32 am 
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Lucius1958 wrote:
I must admit: for sheer glamor, European machines left their American rivals in the dust... :pig:

Bill


You're right, Bill. If you exclude the English machines and their stern Victorian air(except maybe for the extravagant Melba model), French Pathé made great looking ornate models, Spanish HMV had colorful machines, the German and Swiss also made some ornate machines, and as we see in this thread, Eastern Europe also produced great looking ones!


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 Post subject: Re: Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:01 pm 
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Beautiful machines! First time I've run across them.

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1. Space will expand to accommodate an infinite number of possessions, regardless of their size.
2. Shortage of finance, however dire, will never prevent the acquisition of a desired object, however improbable its cost.


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 Post subject: Re: Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 12:18 pm 
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Lucius1958 wrote:
I must admit: for sheer glamor, European machines left their American rivals in the dust... :pig:

Bill


I would agree, and I want to add the machine in the original posting is a real stunner. Beautiful!

That said, I have the impression American *motors* tended to be more robust and powerful than their (at least continental) European counterparts. Or perhaps I've just been unlucky in the European machines that have come my way?


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 Post subject: Re: Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2018 2:06 pm 
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I would agree, and I want to add the machine in the original posting is a real stunner. Beautiful!

That said, I have the impression American *motors* tended to be more robust and powerful than their (at least continental) European counterparts. Or perhaps I've just been unlucky in the European machines that have come my way?


You have no idea about many things!!! Here is a gramophone with a rare motor.Dimensions 48x48 cm.


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 Post subject: Re: Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
PostPosted: Mon Sep 23, 2019 8:50 am 
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maestro2009 wrote:
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I would agree, and I want to add the machine in the original posting is a real stunner. Beautiful!

That said, I have the impression American *motors* tended to be more robust and powerful than their (at least continental) European counterparts. Or perhaps I've just been unlucky in the European machines that have come my way?


You have no idea about many things!!! Here is a gramophone with a rare motor.Dimensions 48x48 cm.


I once saw a complete gramophone with the case from the first picture on an auction, but they wanted about 4000 euro for it. I wonder what is the value of Syrena machines


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 Post subject: Re: Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:13 am 
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Form 1912 this ad shows the manufacturer of the metal parts found on your Syrena.

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 Post subject: Re: Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:15 pm 
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drh wrote:
Lucius1958 wrote:
I must admit: for sheer glamor, European machines left their American rivals in the dust... :pig:

Bill


I would agree, and I want to add the machine in the original posting is a real stunner. Beautiful!

That said, I have the impression American *motors* tended to be more robust and powerful than their (at least continental) European counterparts. Or perhaps I've just been unlucky in the European machines that have come my way?


The best motors ever made were from the European continent and then the UK. My guess is that you have not had much exposure to the high end product from European marks, Parlophone, Pathé and Paillard.


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 Post subject: Re: Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
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The machine is an absolute beauty. As others have said I sincerely appreciate seeing rare high quality machines I've never seen before.

Congratulations on a great restoration from another collector of odd rare and decorative models


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 Post subject: Re: Polish 1915 Syrena Gramophone
PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:35 am 
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Steve, most probable to the enormous proliferation of the smaller Thorens motors and their ready availability. Many manufacturers (or later restorers) used these motors even in the largest machines, and that's the most we find today. Big good quality gramophones with those old huge Swiss and German motors are a rarity!
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