Columbia portables..the endless enigma?
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Re: Columbia portables..the endless enigma?
Exactly which earlier model his case comes from (if it does) could be ascertained by comparing precise measurements. But it looks to me like a 206 case with less rounded corners, and that is to make it fit the 101 corners which they presumably had a stock of in 1946 that they wanted to use up. I reckon the lid hinge likewise is there to use up old stock. It is certainly not a 101 case - the lid is too deep, due to the flush motor board which was one of the Columbia features retained by EMI and eventually (in 1948) copied into the 102 to save the cost of making two different cases.
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Re: Columbia portables..the endless enigma?
The case measures 11 ½" wide x 16" deep x 7" high. The lid itself is 2 ½" deep.
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Exactly the same as the 112A and the 202. It would be interesting to to see if there is any evidence of filled in holes where the original winding handle escutcheon would have been, and the four holes from the original carrying handle brackets?
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No holes. It was a virgin case.
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Re: Columbia portables..the endless enigma?
This Model 56 has just appeared on eBay. The Maltese dealer's plate suggests an Italian made machine.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203649765349 ... 1438.l2649
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203649765349 ... 1438.l2649
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Re: Columbia portables..the endless enigma?
Why so? While I agree that Malta should logically be Italian, it has been under UK until 1964.epigramophone wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:41 am This Model 56 has just appeared on eBay. The Maltese dealer's plate suggests an Italian made machine.
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I think this is a Japan made Columbia, I have a model 56 myself, and it looks identical, and is made in Japan. The model 56 must have been imported to Scandinavia in the past, since it is sometimes seen for sale here. I have no idea who imported it to Malta, but since Nippon Columbia were exporting to Scandinavia, I guess they just as well could export to Malta. The type of winding handle is also the one found on Japan made Columbia portables.
Unofficial list of Columbia portables (including model 56): viewtopic.php?f=11&t=44585&hilit=list+of+japan+made
We can see also photos of model 56 in this thead : viewtopic.php?f=11&t=44519&hilit=columbia+holy+grail
Unofficial list of Columbia portables (including model 56): viewtopic.php?f=11&t=44585&hilit=list+of+japan+made
We can see also photos of model 56 in this thead : viewtopic.php?f=11&t=44519&hilit=columbia+holy+grail
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Re: Columbia portables..the endless enigma?
The 56 was an overseas model made outside the UK and never catalogued in the UK.Marco Gilardetti wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:23 amWhy so? While I agree that Malta should logically be Italian, it has been under UK until 1964.epigramophone wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:41 am This Model 56 has just appeared on eBay. The Maltese dealer's plate suggests an Italian made machine.
I thought I had made it clear that my comment about an Italian origin was a suggestion and not a statement of fact.
If you have a better suggestion let's hear it.
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Re: Columbia portables..the endless enigma?
Has anyone had a Columbia 125?
I'm looking at possibly adding one of these this weekend to the phonograph stash (better sell some typewriters) and have never seen a 125 before. Still have a 202 (thanks to gramophone-georg & a bit of trading) and wouldn't mind adding another Columbia.
This one is a tiny machine and looks cheaper than the 202. Definitely it's small, with a highly nickeled 10" turntable and a hinged needle bowl rather than a swiveling one. The crank is different as well and there is no auto brake. Looking to get it into examination.
I'm looking at possibly adding one of these this weekend to the phonograph stash (better sell some typewriters) and have never seen a 125 before. Still have a 202 (thanks to gramophone-georg & a bit of trading) and wouldn't mind adding another Columbia.
This one is a tiny machine and looks cheaper than the 202. Definitely it's small, with a highly nickeled 10" turntable and a hinged needle bowl rather than a swiveling one. The crank is different as well and there is no auto brake. Looking to get it into examination.
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Re: Columbia portables..the endless enigma?
It looks as having a big exponential horn inside... Must sound very well ... although similar to other portables, those have the tonearm at the back, so the horn is a bit longer. In this one, the mounting of the tonearm suggests that the horn runs along the large side and then turns right along the short side straight to the back opening. Shorter and wider than the other horns. Anyway, summing up the length of tonearm, large and short sides, it could well reach a total length of four feet for the sound pipe... not bad!
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