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 Post subject: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:01 am 
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I thought it could be an idea to start a thread where we upload photos of soundboxes we need to identify or want to discuss. I feel this could be an excellent way of learning more about soundboxes.
Everyone is of course welcome to take part.
I start with this Regent soundbox that was attached to a Hmv 101 that I will use as a donor machine. Does someone know this soundbox?

I add another one: "Veni, Vidi Vici". I read on the German forum that Beka used this phrase on some of their record labels, so maybe it is a Beka soundbox?


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 6:04 am 
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I guess it was not an exactly easy task to identify the soundbox photos I uploaded so far I, but I will keep posting photos, when I aqcuire new soundboxes that I am unable to identify myself. Sharing photos and knowledge is still the only way to expand the general knowledge, also about soundboxes.

When writing this, a question came to my mind. Does it exist a manufacturer today that produce soundboxes for acoustic gramophones, that could be feasible to use as substitutes for original brand soundboxes?..and I am of course not thinking about India made crapophone soundboxes... :roll:

I have a few horn gramophones that could do with a new soundbox, since the original ones are completely ruined.


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:16 pm 
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I have a few horn gramophones that could do with a new soundbox, since the original ones are completely ruined.

Unless the metal bodies of the original reproducers are somehow destroyed (potmetal deterioration, etc.) most can be rebuilt and restored as good as they were when new. You might want to elaborate on your phrase - "completely ruined", better yet post a couple of pictures.
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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:25 pm 
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Hi Curt,
Here is a photo of one of the soundboxes attached to one of my Swizz/German horn gramophones, two other soundboxes are already thrown to the garbage, since the pot metal/metal completely dissolved into pieces when I tried to remove them from the gramophone, to have a closer look at them. This one is also extremely close to garbage as I see it, in fact I see it as garbage.
I have ordered a few good soundboxes online during the last few weeks, but I know..when they arrive, I tend to keep them, instead of attaching them to (horn/portable) gramophones that I plan to sell. That is why it could be convenient to attach a soundbox that was good, but still not too difficult to part with.


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 2:53 pm 
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I've seen the Veni Vidi Vici before it is probably German post 1918 bot never seen the Regent or a Regent machine ? ? And that soundbox is trash but the needle bar screw and mica might be reusable at some time


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 5:11 am 
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Adding another soundbox. A well chosen name, and much to live up to! I know nothing about what machine/brand it in the past was attached to.

Update on the Mozart soundbox: I have now seen the same soundbox attached to an original
Triumphon horn gramophone, and there is possibly a reason to believe that this soundbox was made for Triumphon...


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:26 am 
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I also have a Mozart soundbox of a different design. The spelling "Wien" suggests a European make. A British one would probably show the name as "Vienna".

Apart from a few opera arias, not much Mozart was being recorded when these soundboxes were made.


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:26 pm 
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Made in England No 77 on back

Made by who ? And what were n0 1to 76 ?


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:22 pm 
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It's great that new soundboxes are added. Then we have a better chance of getting some soundbox mysteries solved.


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 3:43 pm 
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I bought a Columbia 112a cheaply today, and before buying the portable, I could vaguely see from the distant photos that a Columbia soundbox was not attached to the tone arm. I could even say I bought the machine out of curiosity, wanting to find out what soundbox that was attached:;)
It reads Swiss made on the front, but no logo visible. Is it a Paillard or Thorens soundbox, maybe made for another manufacturer of gramophones, or is it something obscure? I will not say it looks exactly pretty, but I will not judge the soundbox by how it is looking, because it looks well made, and is heavy!


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