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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:10 am 
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Victor IV
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F. Depero, "Grammofono", 1923.
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Definitely not "obscure", this is the standard soundbox that should go on Decca Salon 130 portables and similar models. I remember the late Graham Barber (whose terrific website seems unfortunately definitively gone, despite his family's early intention to keep it alive, so I can't check there any longer) once told me that these were made by Paillard. While not exactly exciting in appearance, their sound is truly excellent when coupled to an impedance-matched orthophonic horn.

To the best of my knowledge, they weren't factory-fitted to Columbia Viva Tonals, and I wonder how it comes that yours have one fitted to it, but perhaps there's something that I ignore about late units produced etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:08 am 
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Thank you, Marco.
I don't think it ever was fitted to the Columbia 112A, it was taped to the tone arm to fit.


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 6:46 am 
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F. Depero, "Grammofono", 1923.
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Ah, OK... That makes sense.


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 10:23 am 
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Decca's pre-war soundboxes, and some of their earlier motors, were indeed made by Paillard.
After WW2 Decca acquired the rights to the Meltrope III soundbox, which with a Decca front mask was used on many of their later portables.


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2020 3:27 pm 
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The regent looks very similar to the big Juwell Electro, an enhanced German version of the hmv no4, with a larger diaphragm. The back plate and connector also look the same. It could be a client of that brand. They were fitted to many gramophones in Europe...
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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2020 7:01 pm 
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nostalgia wrote:
Adding another soundbox. A well chosen name, and much to live up to! I know nothing about what machine/brand it in the past was attached to.

Update on the Mozart soundbox: I have now seen the same soundbox attached to an original
Triumphon horn gramophone, and there is possibly a reason to believe that this soundbox was made for Triumphon...


And here a catalog picture, also slight variation :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Soundboxes/reproducers to identify and discuss
PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:05 pm 
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Thank you for adding the catalog photo, Sidewinder. Another good reference.
I am adding another soundbox, a Triumphon soundbox. I found it yesterday inside a Victrola VV-Viii, along with the more expected Victor Exhibition soundbox. This is the first soundbox that I have myself found with the Triumphon logo inside the soundbox. On the up to now four Triumphon gramophones that have come my way, the logo has not been present on the soundboxes.


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