Viva-Tonal 113a Handle...Mission Impossible?

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Viva-Tonal 113a Handle...Mission Impossible?

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Hello gramophone lovers,
I am finishing the restoring of a Columbia Viva-Tonal 113a but as you can see the handle is missing. I have contacted with John Sleep and he sent me a Viva Tonal handle but it is too small for this gramophone. That is the only one he has.
I am starting to be really worried about finding the handle. The original one was made of brass which is even more complicated!
Any ideas about where can I find it?
Thank you very much to everyone!
(I live in the UK)
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Re: Viva-Tonal 113a Handle...Mission Impossible?

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Hopefully someone can tell what exact Garrard motor is in this Columbia machine, and what other Columbia models, if any, that has the exact same motor. I myself have a 113, luckily with the handle intact, but unfortunately no other scrappy early Columbias with a Garrard motor where a handle could be sacrificed. I have to date not yet opened any of the motors in these early Columbias...

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Re: Viva-Tonal 113a Handle...Mission Impossible?

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Hello Nostalgia, fingers crossed!
113a has a double spring motor.
Thank you!!

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Re: Viva-Tonal 113a Handle...Mission Impossible?

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nostalgia wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:41 am Hopefully someone can tell what exact Garrard motor is in this Columbia machine, and what other Columbia models, if any, that has the exact same motor. I myself have a 113, luckily with the handle intact, but unfortunately no other scrappy early Columbias with a Garrard motor where a handle could be sacrificed. I have to date not yet opened any of the motors in these early Columbias...
As you have a 113a too I would like to ask you if yours has the lock key. I am trying to find one but I do not know how the shape was!

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Re: Viva-Tonal 113a Handle...Mission Impossible?

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Unfortunately, there is no lock key on my machine. I believe they are pretty hard to find...

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Re: Viva-Tonal 113a Handle...Mission Impossible?

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So...2 impossible missions here :D

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No, not impossible! As you can see on the photos below, the handle is a standard one, but it has an extension, which sometimes remains screwed to the motor when the handle is unwound. Check to see if the extension is still there before proceeding. Also attached photo of the key, a very simple design.

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Phono48 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:34 am No, not impossible! As you can see on the photos below, the handle is a standard one, but it has an extension, which sometimes remains screwed to the motor when the handle is unwound. Check to see if the extension is still there before proceeding. Also attached photo of the key, a very simple design.

Barry
OMG Barry!!! That is the one in brass!!
Yes it has an extension I see...this is great.
Where can I find the brass one?? You are killing me with that photo...

The key looks like the HMV 101 and 102 ones... interesting
Thank you!

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Re: Viva-Tonal 113a Handle...Mission Impossible?

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Yorch wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:46 am
Phono48 wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:34 am No, not impossible! As you can see on the photos below, the handle is a standard one, but it has an extension, which sometimes remains screwed to the motor when the handle is unwound. Check to see if the extension is still there before proceeding. Also attached photo of the key, a very simple design.

Barry
OMG Barry!!! That is the one in brass!!
Yes it has an extension I see...this is great.
Where can I find the brass one?? You are killing me with that photo...

The key looks like the HMV 101 and 102 ones... interesting
Thank you!
If it's truly a standard crank, as Barry states, just get a standard one and have it brass plated.

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Re: Viva-Tonal 113a Handle...Mission Impossible?

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I will do it
Thank you guys!

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