This machine is an apparent European clone of a Columbia B, mounted on a board which becomes the lid of a box when flipped over. There are no markings on it, except for an oval with the letters N and S stamped in the center... Any ideas?
Help needed to identify this machine
- Curt A
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 6412
- Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 pm
- Personal Text: Needle Tins are Addictive
- Location: Belmont, North Carolina
Help needed to identify this machine
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
- poodling around
- Victor V
- Posts: 2141
- Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:52 am
Re: Help needed to identify this machine
I don't collect phonographs (yet) and know nothing about them but I think that this is genuinely the nicest I have ever seen. Great design.Curt A wrote: ↑Wed Jul 14, 2021 5:52 pm This machine is an apparent European clone of a Columbia B, mounted on a board which becomes the lid of a box when flipped over. There are no markings on it, except for an oval with the letters N and S stamped in the center... Any ideas?
Screen Shot 2021-07-14 at 5.45.13 PM.png
Screen Shot 2021-07-14 at 5.44.10 PM.png
Screen Shot 2021-07-14 at 5.43.14 PM.png
- Curt A
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 6412
- Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 pm
- Personal Text: Needle Tins are Addictive
- Location: Belmont, North Carolina
Re: Help needed to identify this machine
ANYBODY have ANY ideas???
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
-
- Victor IV
- Posts: 1835
- Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:18 am
- Location: Luxembourg
Re: Help needed to identify this machine
I have a French phonograph - Le Charmeur - that resembles the one on the photo above, but it does not have the SN marking.
- Ahmed
- Victor I
- Posts: 180
- Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:02 pm
- Location: Essex, England
- Contact:
Re: Help needed to identify this machine
To my knowledge, that is a common design and mechanism used by a fair few French off brands. Here's my example sold by Ulman
- Curt A
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 6412
- Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 pm
- Personal Text: Needle Tins are Addictive
- Location: Belmont, North Carolina
Re: Help needed to identify this machine
Thanks, Carlos & Ahmed... Do those machines take a gutta percha or aluminum reproducer and do you have pics of them?
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
- Ahmed
- Victor I
- Posts: 180
- Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:02 pm
- Location: Essex, England
- Contact:
Re: Help needed to identify this machine
Unfortunately mine came with a replacement Pathé reproducer, however a fellow collector had provided the attached showing the original reproducer with an aluminium diaphragm
- Curt A
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 6412
- Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 pm
- Personal Text: Needle Tins are Addictive
- Location: Belmont, North Carolina
Re: Help needed to identify this machine
Are those aluminum ones with a spider difficult to find in Europe?
Does anyone have a reproducer similar to the one pictured above that they might part with?
Does anyone have a reproducer similar to the one pictured above that they might part with?
Last edited by Curt A on Thu Jul 15, 2021 2:41 pm, edited 1 time in total.
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
- Ahmed
- Victor I
- Posts: 180
- Joined: Wed Nov 07, 2018 5:02 pm
- Location: Essex, England
- Contact:
Re: Help needed to identify this machine
I've not come across them in the UK, but would assume they're not too difficult to find in France.
- Curt A
- Victor Monarch Special
- Posts: 6412
- Joined: Fri Jul 09, 2010 8:32 pm
- Personal Text: Needle Tins are Addictive
- Location: Belmont, North Carolina
Re: Help needed to identify this machine
Thanks, Ahmed. The only type I seem to find on French eBay are Pathé...
"The phonograph is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.
"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife