Need help identifying Pathéphone

[oliver]

Hi Everyone,

Would anyone on the board be able to help identify this Pathé?

It's in pretty rough shape, and it appears somebody painted and varnished over it a long time ago without preparing it first.

It doesn't have an ID plate and I don't have access to the machine now but from what I can see, the crank, speed regulator knob, and motor release lever all appear to be in the correct place. The triangular motor would be correct for a letter series machine (B, D, etc)

Things that puzzle me:

- I can't tell what kind of wood the case is made of; and it appears to be solid wood, not veneered.
- The base of the case doesn't have the carvings that are commonly found on Pathéphones of either the letter series or the number series.
- The simple corner columns are not quite like the ones typically found on those machines.
- The back bracket, although in the correct place and seemingly fitting well, doesn't quite look like a typical Pathé bracket. It doesn't have the curved piece at the top.

I'm kind of suspecting original Pathéphone guts residing in a homemade case, possibly made a long time ago, with the back bracket remaining a mystery.

What do you Eminent Connoisseurs think?

Thanks a lot in advance for your good insights,

Oliver
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[Inigo]

The fabulous Graphonogram site has lots of old catalogs of European machines. Look for every pathé catalogue, and be patient... You might find your machine.
https://www.graphonogram.com/4-documentation.html

[Steve]

Looks like a Neophone to me.

[Steve]

Here's my Neophone

[Steve]

Here's my 1905/6 Neophone:

[oliver]

Here's my 1905/6 Neophone:

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Very nice! Thank you Steve.

[oliver]

The fabulous Graphonogram site has lots of old catalogs of European machines. Look for every pathé catalogue, and be patient... You might find your machine.
https://www.graphonogram.com/4-documentation.html

Thank you for the link Inigo. I'm already seeing a number of machines I'd like to have.

[Inigo]

It's a fascinating Swiss site. Don't know who supports it....

[Sidewinder]

Looks like a Neophone to me.

Neophone did not make gramophones!

[Steve]

Looks like a Neophone to me.

Neophone did not make gramophones!

You're probably right. I've just noticed my machine is a Miraphone! I'd forgotten what it was!