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 Post subject: Re: Mid-Atlantic Edison Class M - SCAM
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:08 pm 
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So seller located on an island in the middle of the Atlantic, with zero feedback!

Anyone seen this machine before?


https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1890-Edison- ... %7Ciid%3A1


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 Post subject: Re: Mid-Atlantic Edison Class M
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 1:17 pm 
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Here it is in 2014

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/1890-Edison-Cla ... 0982829190

same serial number on reproducer


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 Post subject: Re: Mid-Atlantic Edison Class M
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:08 pm 
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Where are the pictures from the 2014 listing?

Current listing description: "Edison North American Class M Electric Phonograph, No. 7028, with reproducer “Standard Speaker” which was introduced in 1889, No. 15157, weighted two-ball governor, brake and large electric motor with driving horizontal pulley, on mahogany base with three nickel-plated plaques engraved respectively "Class M", "North American Phonograph Co., New York”, with ultimate patd. dates to July 31 1888, "The North American Phonograph Company" under the restrictions that it shall not be used within the State of New Jersey and with drawer numbered (17 3) as the basis.This is a bank transfer sale, pics/infos if needed/thank you."
THE "BANK TRANSFER SALE STATEMENT IS A DEFINITE RED FLAG, IN MY OPINION... I certainly wouldn't transfer funds to an account in the Canary Islands - Santa Cruz de Tenerife, especially to a seller with ZERO feedback and absolutely no guarantees.

Description from 2014: Edison North American Class M Electric Phonograph, No. 7028, with reproducer “Standard Speaker” which was introduced in 1889, No. 15157, weighted two-ball governor, brake and large electric motor with driving horizontal pulley, on mahogany base with three nickel-plated plaques engraved respectively "Class M", "North American Phonograph Co., New York”, with ultimate patd. dates to July 31 1888, "The North American Phonograph Company" under the restrictions that it shall not be used within the State of New Jersey and with drawer numbered (17 3) as the basis (see pictures).

This was extremely expensive machine and was purchased in 1890 for 220 $, when average salaries were around $ 40 a month.

The horn, which is also original, it was bought in Italy and is a RARE "Anglo Italian Commerce Company" that (see pictures) can be divided into two parts.

It makes you wonder how it traveled from near Rome in 2014 to the Canary Islands... :?


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 Post subject: Re: Mid-Atlantic Edison Class M - SCAM
PostPosted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:37 pm 
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Short answer to where are the 2014 photo's - Ask ebay

Thanks for both descriptions, I was going to post them myself!

Teneriffe is in the Atlantic, hence the title.

Just found this: Class M with 7028 serial number:

https://www.skinnerinc.com/auctions/2345/lots/468

Edison North American Class M Electric Phonograph, No. 7028, with Automatic reproducer No. NL 11771, weighted two-ball governor, brake and large electric motor with coils driving horizontal pulley, on bedplate with three nickel-plated plaques engraved respectively Class M, North American Phonograph Co., New York with patd. dates to July 31 1888, and This Machine is sold by The North American Phonograph Company under the restrictions that it shall not be used within the State of New Jersey,


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