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 Post subject: 2 Cylinder Phonos & Edison Photo With Negative
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 6:47 pm 
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A local (Aurora, Oregon) auction house is offering a photo of Thomas Edison in his shop including the negative. Nothing in the photo says phonograph, but it is Edison. Thought it might be of interest here...

https://auctions.mclarenauction.com/lots/view/4-1JCAO0/thomas-edison-photograph-negative-menlo-park


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 Post subject: Re: Edison Photo With Negative
PostPosted: Sun Dec 27, 2020 7:27 pm 
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There are also a couple phonographs in this auction.

https://auctions.mclarenauction.com/lots/view/4-1JCAPC/antique-cylinder-graphophone

https://auctions.mclarenauction.com/lots/view/4-1JCB22/antique-cylinder-home-phonograph-records


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 Post subject: Re: Edison Photo With Negative
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Wow, a BFT with 2/4 minute gearing! Wonder how much it'll fetch at auction's end?

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 Post subject: Re: 2 Cylinder Phonos & Edison Photo With Negative
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CDBPDX wrote:
A local (Aurora, Oregon) auction house is offering a photo of Thomas Edison in his shop including the negative. Nothing in the photo says phonograph, but it is Edison. Thought it might be of interest here...


They are not selling it as any type of original. They don't even mention sizes. I only see it as a continuous tone negative and a contact print of poor quality. Just saying, I don't think its has any collector value, and at $160. :roll:

Here's the same image with greater tonal range.

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 Post subject: Re: 2 Cylinder Phonos & Edison Photo With Negative
PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:30 pm 
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Roaring20s wrote:
CDBPDX wrote:
A local (Aurora, Oregon) auction house is offering a photo of Thomas Edison in his shop including the negative. Nothing in the photo says phonograph, but it is Edison. Thought it might be of interest here...


They are not selling it as any type of original. They don't even mention sizes. I only see it as a continuous tone negative and a contact print of poor quality. Just saying, I don't think its has any collector value, and at $160. :roll:

Here's the same image with greater tonal range.

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Edison.jpg


James.

WOW! Not sure what a continuous tone negative is, doesn't sound too encouraging. Should this be a glass plate negative?
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 Post subject: Re: 2 Cylinder Phonos & Edison Photo With Negative
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 12:45 am 
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Cliff, film negatives were available when this photograph was originally taken.

Film used in cameras are continuous in tone. To me, what's being offered looks like a modern replication of an old photo. Using a camera to make a photographic duplicate. Loosing tonal quality along the way.

James.


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 Post subject: Re: 2 Cylinder Phonos & Edison Photo With Negative
PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 5:06 am 
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Roaring20s wrote:
Cliff, film negatives were available when this photograph was originally taken.

Film used in cameras are continuous in tone. To me, what's being offered looks like a modern replication of an old photo. Using a camera to make a photographic duplicate. Loosing tonal quality along the way.

James.

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