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Suspect HMV101
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:45 am
by epigramophone
There are things about this 101 which set my alarm bells ringing.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255143295371 ... %7Ciid%3A1
The machine appears to have been heavily over restored.
The metal fittings should be nickel plated but look more like chrome.
The colour is unlike any I have seen on a 101 and the lid transfer looks like a modern replica.
Has the case been recovered or repainted?
The replacement carrying handle is not a match for the case colour.
Re: Suspect HMV101
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:53 am
by Henry
Gee, I like it! Seems a tad pricey, though. Can't ship to US anyway....
Re: Suspect HMV101
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 12:53 pm
by neilmack
He has a regular production line of heavily restored machines
https://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/richard-pony/m.html
Re: Suspect HMV101
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:46 pm
by epigramophone
I see what you mean! Among his other gems are a 102D with the instruction plate fitted to the batch made for the Ministry of Supply, but they were all black and this one is green
. As for the De Luxe 101 in "Goat Leather", words fail
.
Re: Suspect HMV101
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:28 am
by Gramtastic
They are all horrific !
Re: Suspect HMV101
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 12:20 pm
by Dulcetto
Gramtastic wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 11:28 am
They are all horrific !
I agree 100% !!!
Re: Suspect HMV101
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm
by Curt A
What is the problem with these?
They look "restored", as compared with neglected, rusty, worn, torn examples on eBay for nearly the same price. You may prefer original, untouched, perfect examples, but how many do you find these days in that condition?
I don't really understand what "over-restored" is in this context. I'm always reading about people wanting to re-cover portables or match the original colors, etc. Re-nickeling is a common subject, along with making new parts, etc. So, what exactly, defines "over-restoration" - when do you cross the line?
These are not fake Crap-O-Phones or Frankenphones, just original machines that needed restoration... and now look "restored".
Re: Suspect HMV101
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:01 pm
by Curt A
Henry wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 11:53 am
Gee, I like it! Seems a tad pricey, though. Can't ship to US anyway....
Me too...
Re: Suspect HMV101
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:34 pm
by neilmack
Curt A wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm
What is the problem with these?
They look "restored", as compared with neglected, rusty, worn, torn examples on eBay for nearly the same price. You may prefer original, untouched, perfect examples, but how many do you find these days in that condition?
I don't really understand what "over-restored" is in this context. I'm always reading about people wanting to re-cover portables or match the original colors, etc. Re-nickeling is a common subject, along with making new parts, etc. So, what exactly, defines "over-restoration" - when do you cross the line?
These are not fake Crap-O-Phones or Frankenphones, just original machines that needed restoration... and now look "restored".
They're
incorrectly restored. HMV didn't market a bilious yellow 101; The Ministry of Supply didn't procure machines finished in green.
Re: Suspect HMV101
Posted: Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:51 pm
by JerryVan
neilmack wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:34 pm
Curt A wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:54 pm
What is the problem with these?
They look "restored", as compared with neglected, rusty, worn, torn examples on eBay for nearly the same price. You may prefer original, untouched, perfect examples, but how many do you find these days in that condition?
I don't really understand what "over-restored" is in this context. I'm always reading about people wanting to re-cover portables or match the original colors, etc. Re-nickeling is a common subject, along with making new parts, etc. So, what exactly, defines "over-restoration" - when do you cross the line?
These are not fake Crap-O-Phones or Frankenphones, just original machines that needed restoration... and now look "restored".
They're
incorrectly restored. HMV didn't market a bilious yellow 101; The Ministry of Supply didn't procure machines finished in green.
"Bilious yellow"
I like that!