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Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:46 am
by fmblizz
No mine but getting some action.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/175035521383?h ... SwsWBhnMAr

blizz

Re: Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:03 am
by TinfoilPhono
Not original....

Many years ago there was someone making "replica" Bettini reproducers and horns. I put that in quotes because they were all fantasy versions, not actual replicas. I will dig through my files to see if I can find the brochure. I'd wager that horn was one of his.

Re: Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:23 am
by TinfoilPhono
I found the catalog and attach a few pages. There are several more. You can see the same horn listed. Oddly, the catalog doesn't contain a name, address, or phone number, nor is there a price list for the various offerings. I can't remember who was selling them, perhaps someone else does. I recall that the seller either retired or passed away and all the molds and other materials were put up for sale. I don't know if anyone bought them -- I certainly don't recall seeing any more of these in the market later.

Re: Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 4:34 pm
by TinfoilPhono
I found some pictures illustrating the low quality of these "replicas." The cast resin spider stylus holder (mounted off-center) is particularly impressive. :roll:

Re: Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:22 pm
by chunnybh
I was the idiot who bought these molds in 2005. Just awful.

Re: Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:58 pm
by TinfoilPhono
Ouch. My condolences. I gather you didn't bother going into production with them.

Re: Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:20 pm
by phonohound
interesting this topic came up. I was offered this horn out of the blue by the seller 2 days ago and I declined. I told him I believed this was not real for a variety of reasons. I also sent him a pic from the catalog Rene posted with the proof it is a fantasy. I'm happy to now see he changed his ad.

Re: Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:02 pm
by TinfoilPhono
It's up to $305. :shock: I wonder if any bids will be canceled in light of his update indicating it's a fantasy.

I'm glad he responded properly. Thanks for alerting him, Scott.

Re: Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Thu Nov 25, 2021 7:27 pm
by phonohound
No problem Rene. Appreciate you enlightening us all. Great info. Before I knew for sure this was a fantasy piece, to me it didn't make sense that Bettini 's NY product line would create a cheap looking horn for his expensive micro attachments. The premise of a Bettini attachment is to reproduce the best possible sound and volume from brown wax cylinders. These fantasy horns with a larger reproducer opening than all other brands during the late 1890s - turn of the century, yet with a tiny 5" horn bell, would be counter-productive.

Re: Bettini Micro Phonograph Horn?

Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 12:15 am
by chunnybh
Ouch. My condolences. I gather you didn't bother going into production with them.
I have a few Bettini bits, my logic was that there must be something here that may be useful. I was wrong. Total garbage. It's a shocker that there was a catalogue, you couldn't give these away.