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Oooh, I do like this.

I would definitely want it if it wasn't so far away - it is nearly in the ocean and closer if I lived in France. (Typical )

Walnut, interesting design, seems really well made to me and there may be some interesting 78 records too.

Was it made in Japan ????????????????

https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auct ... 2388c1c5a1

There was a Japanese Paragon Gramophone Co. Ltd, but this machine originated closer to home :

epigramophone wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:30 am There was a Japanese Paragon Gramophone Co. Ltd, but this machine originated closer to home :

Thanks as always epigramophone.

It's just that I have never seen a speed control like that before and wondered if it might have been an import or something ?

I'd much rather have an HMV 192

Steve wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:56 am I'd much rather have an HMV 192

I can't seem to find much information on HMV 192's - apart from them sometimes being painted black with elephants dotted around.

Why would you prefer one ? Better sound ?

poodling around wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 3:37 pm

Steve wrote: ↑Wed Jun 07, 2023 8:56 am I'd much rather have an HMV 192

I can't seem to find much information on HMV 192's - apart from them sometimes being painted black with elephants dotted around.

Why would you prefer one ? Better sound ?

Much better sound, better motor, gold plated, probably just as cheap too.

hmv 162 and 192 did have the saxophone horn?

Inigo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:20 am hmv 162 and 192 did have the saxophone horn?

Yes they did.

Inigo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:20 am hmv 162 and 192 did have the saxophone horn?

That's why I tend to avoid cabinet machines unless they at least have saxophone horns or are re-entrant type like the 163 and 202. Otherwise you're just buying a table model with an inadequate (for most of us, presumably?) record cupboard underneath. At least with my Apollo Super 4 and Super 9 models I'm gaining something by having a cabinet machine. Its the same with my HMV 201 and Decca 72. I do have other cabinet models which just have a simple horn but they tend to be much earlier machines that were innovative in their day or stylish in some other way (before saxophone horns were invented) like the Bassanophone, Fixed Tone Arm Gramophone, HMV Style 12.....and HMV Junior Grand!

I think I have too many cabinet machines now anyway........11 in total.