According to a contemporary review--1927--the horn is nine feet long ---NEKTREG wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:09 ambarnettrp21122 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 4:24 pm The pedestal was supplied with the machine at no extra cost, according to the catalog. It easy to imagine these getting separated from the machine.
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At least in Germany by Electrola the pedestal had very well costed extra!
The machine itself (only sold in walnut) costed 3500 RM, while the „remote“ costed 110 RM extra.
I don‘t think this is true - the horn in it‘s structure looks exactly as the big Re-Entrant horns. It also sounds very nice, but not as nice as the 203 because of the oddly placed horn to you’re feet.Steve wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 9:42 am Technically not a "re-entrant" model as it only has the two chambers similar to a 157 (albeit mounted horizontally). The large (wide) cabinet is needed for the mechanism and the throw of the record placing arm but these have much smaller horns than the large HMV re-entrant models,
At least better than any Victor machine.
"The reviewer of THE GRAMOPHONE trade magazine gushes in December of 1927:
“This is one of the most uncanny instruments we have ever seen. The gramophone part of it contains an improved form of orthophonic horn, equivalent, we were informed, to a straight horn 9 feet long. (…) The special feature (…) is the automatic record changer and repeater. The “magazine” will hold 20 records. 12 inch or 10 inch records can be mixed up indiscriminately. (…) The record is picked up from the magazine and placed on the turntable, the sound-box and needle are gently carried down into the first groove and the band begins to play. When the record is finished, the sound-box is lifted up, the record ejected into a compartment lined with rubber and felt, and a new record is placed on the turntable. (…) If you don’t happen to like any particular record you just press a button and it is summarily dismissed and the next record is played. Or, if you like the record so much that you want to hear it again, you just touch a lever, and the record is repeated. Could anything be more convenient? It only remains now for H.M.V. to add an attachment which serves out coffee and cigars.”"
FROM --http://myvintagetv.com/updatepages1/HMV1A.htm
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Interestingly, the second generation Automatic Orthophonic Victrola, the 1035X -- http://www.victor-victrola.com/10-35.htm -- was fitted with a smaller horn than was used on the original Credenza, and much smaller than the 10-50's 7 foot horn. It was the same metal 2-chamber horn installed in the VV-8-35, though I've yet to find anything about it's length compared to the standard 6-foot wooden Credenza horn.
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