ok, the machine itself doesn't look bad, but really? the earliest machine in existence???
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EDISON-FIRESIDE ... 519c44b618
this is from the same seller, some might recognize, who was routinely buying credenzas for a while and swapping out the brass reproducers for garbage and selling the machines to overseas bidders, if not just parting them out.
text from the listing...
"100% ORIGINAL EVERYTHING DOES NOT COME WITH HORN OR CABINET IT IS SITTING ON!
TRULY A COLLECTORS FIND WILL PROBABLY NEVER BE OFFERED FOR SALE AGAIN IN OUR LIFETIME DONT SNOOZE!!!!
INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING OUR SPECIALTY EMAIL FOR QUOTES DO NOT USE THE EBAY CALCULATOR
ORIGINAL MODEL K REPRODUCER PLAYS 2 AND 4 MINUTE CYLINDER RECORDS
PLAYS EXCELLENT"
edison fireside model A "earliest machine in existence" ???
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Re: edison fireside model A "earliest machine in existence" ???
Well, it's certainly one of the earliest FIRESIDES in existence! I wonder if that's what the seller meant?
Note the single gold pinstripe and "tufts of grass" decoration in the corners rather than the characteristic wide gold and blue stripes. I don't think I've seen a Fireside with this apparently early decoration.
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Note the single gold pinstripe and "tufts of grass" decoration in the corners rather than the characteristic wide gold and blue stripes. I don't think I've seen a Fireside with this apparently early decoration.
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Re: edison fireside model A "earliest machine in existence" ???
The serial number "109" is difficult to undercut. I wouldn't be surprised if he sells the machine for this crazy price.


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Re: edison fireside model A "earliest machine in existence" ???
Shame it doesn't also retain the original horn & crane too. It's certainly the earliest Fireside I recall ever seeing.
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Re: edison fireside model A "earliest machine in existence" ???
I've seen a few with that early pin striping but not many. I happen to have one of them, SN 1941. I suppose that means there could have been at least a couple thousand made with the early decoration but then they could have produced multiple styles in parallel as with the early Amberolas... 
First pic show it with an early, but I doubt factory made, extended top half of the crane to accommodate the larger horn.

First pic show it with an early, but I doubt factory made, extended top half of the crane to accommodate the larger horn.
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Re: edison fireside model A "earliest machine in existence" ???
Mike Tucker confirms the existence of Firesides #83 and #90 as well.
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I would assume then that they have this earlier decoration too?phonogfp wrote:Mike Tucker confirms the existence of Firesides #83 and #90 as well.
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Re: edison fireside model A "earliest machine in existence" ???
That's my assumption (but you know the old saying...!).
Thanks for posting photos of yours, Bruce!
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Thanks for posting photos of yours, Bruce!
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Re: edison fireside model A "earliest machine in existence" ???
Thanks, I added a pic with an after market horn and extended crane setup that I think is sort of interesting.phonogfp wrote:That's my assumption (but you know the old saying...!).
Thanks for posting photos of yours, Bruce!
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Re: edison fireside model A "earliest machine in existence" ???
The seller has a great career ahead of him as a carnival barker. Someone should contact him and tell him he's making specious claims.
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