European Disc Machines

[schweg]

it looks smaller in the photos, perhaps because of the size of the horn in relation to the rest of the machine?

I can't think of anything to say that is appropriate!!

[Steve]

Just a slight (but significant) correction to make here - that "Trademark" is actually no such thing; it's a G & T "New Style No. 3" from about 1903/4. Most "European" collectors tend to follow the descriptions as laid out in the Daniel Marty book but his assumption that any trademark style machine with the wooden case, is a "Trademark Dog Model" was incorrect.

The N.S.3 significantly has a different motor,speed control/brake system, soundbox and horn.

The case and travelling arms ARE identical though!

[schweg]

Steve- thanks for the information. Very helpful

[Calle]

My latest acquisition and best piece A G&T New Melba (about 1908)....

Some small work to do (new turntable felt, 2 new back bracker screws (were not original) and clean it), but really a unique piece for my collection...

[richardh]

Now, that Melba is a very very nice looking machine. WoW...you must be very please to be the new owner of that lovely machine. Is the horn painted or is it dulled brass?

RJ

[Starkton]

I am sure it is dulled brass and my advice is to leave it as it is. All other parts of the machine are darkened and aged gracefully. Shiny brass would disturb the general appearance.

At second sight I recognize remains of cleaning agent in the seams. These should be gently cleaned, of course.

[Steve]

Those New Melbas are indeed stunning machines. You must be thrilled to have such an early and beautiful base!

Is the horn a replacement one or an original, do you know? I would clean it, if it was mine. Those brass horns really worry me though. I've seen so many (good) reproductions over the years and sadly only one or two originals on websites and never in the flesh. They are sublimely rare (more reason to be suspicious of one without any dents, defects or signs of age to it).

[Calle]

Yes, it's indeed dulled brass and for sure 100% original !
I've bought it from a man who heritaged it from his grandfather: an owner of a tavern in the 20ies.
He said me it stood for at least 30 years on the attic and because he was moving to a smaller home he'd to sell a lot of furniture and other stuff.
I've checked his story and it turned out to be true.
The horn has some small dents but nothing really severe.

Since I've the machine my wife is complaining that I can only talk about it

[Starkton]

One last advice: put the Melba gramophone away from the heating! Otherwise you will see to it that the cabinet deforms.

[MordEth]

One last advice: put the Melba gramophone away from the heating! Otherwise you will see to it that the cabinet deforms.

Starkton—very good point.

Calle—While I cannot speak for everyone else here, I would definitely be interested in seeing an ‘after’ shot, after you’ve had a chance to make the minor restorations that you mentioned.

It definitely is a lovely addition to any collection.

— MordEth