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Amberol question

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Still learning the basics of this stuff…

Question about amberols: I understand that the black wax ones came out in 1908 and later the blue Amberols came out. It seems to me that every now and then I get a cylinder which is extremely light blue, not a faded blue amberol (which I see now and again) but almost a baby blue amberol. Is that a different type? Did it just change due to aging?

Lastly, what’s the story with reproducers and amberols. Which reproducers are ok for them? Will a model H play all of them? Thanks everyone fir the education! A quick search online didn’t answer my questions…

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In my experience, the Blue Amberols, like the brown waxes, can vary greatly depending on the dyes used at the time. I have some very light blue ones, and a couple that are almost a forest green.
As for reproducers, you can play any Amberol cylinder with a Model H, although Blue Amberols won't sound as good. NEVER play a wax Amberol with a Dimond stylus though.
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What will happen if you play one with a diamond stylus?

Also, what type of material is used for Model C, H and K? Thank you all!

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At one time, Edison switched to a different formula for the blue color as a cost cutting measure. He soon found out that 1) the color faded quickly, and 2) the overall record was lower in quality with significantly higher surface noise. The experiment was undone pretty quickly.

As for which records go to which reproducers and why, may I suggest you read the articles that are available on the Antique Phonograph Society's website.

If you play a wax record with a diamond stylus, the weight of the reproducer will dig into the groove and destroy it

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Here's an article that should answer your questions:

https://www.antiquephono.org/basic-anti ... onal-tips/

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I have a copy on Blue Amberol of Walte Van Brunt singing "There's A Girl In The Heart Of Maryland "It's a light blue like the blue Indestructibles.edisonplayer.
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I have a copy on Blue Amberol of Walter Van Brunt singing "There's A Girl In The Heart Of Maryland ".It's a light blue like the blue Indestructibles.edisonplayer.

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What type of material is in a model C or H reproducer? Is it sapphire? Something else? Thank you everyone for this education!

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Models C, H, and K all use a sapphire ball stylus.
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KCW wrote: Thu Jun 17, 2021 7:17 pm What type of material is in a model C or H reproducer? Is it sapphire? Something else? Thank you everyone for this education!
The Edison Models C, H, and K reproducers use eliptical sapphire styli (shaped like tiny doorknobs).

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