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 Post subject: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:45 pm 
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Hi all!

I am (most likely) going to purchase a Victrola VV-230 in the next week or so, and would like some advise, and perhaps a few answers

1. How do you properly transport it? Should I leave some tension in the springs for the motor, and lock the brake (if possible) while transporting it, or should I let the turntable run until it fully stops, then transport it? Should it be stored upright, or could it be laid on it's back? (I'm thinking upright, most likely, but, it depends) I don't want to damage the motor.

2. How do you keep the springs wound? I always thought you rotated the hand crank until you felt a little tension, then play the record. I've seen several people mention "a key" to wind up the motor, to ensure it works properly. Did I miss something?

3. What is a fair price to pay for one (#1 newbie question, I know) but I'm aware it's a fairly uncommon model, and the man I'm talking to wants $368.00 firm for it. He says it plays well, and presents well. He sent me a few photo's of it, and it looks great. The finish on the outside is no longer ultra glossy, like a lot of original well preserved examples, but no missing veneer, or anything. Of course, under the lid is the shiny finish we all know.

If I get it, I'll become quite a regular here 8-)
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 Post subject: Re: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:09 pm 
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Welcome Sig,

I won't touch the how much to or not to wind/unwind the springs, strong opinions abound on that one. (but I would say it doesn't matter)

You can transport either upright or on it's back without problem, however, if you transport it on it's back be sure to remove the repro and the platter and immobilize the tone arm some how. What I do is just wrap a large bath towel around the tonearm. I have a nice appliance dolly and when I transport I remove the repro and platter, immobilize the tonearm, wrap the machine in a moving pad/blanket, strap it in the dolly, lay the whole thing in the back of the van. When I get it home, it is still on the dolly and ready to make the final journey to it's new spot. The furniture pad also holds the lid shut while it is on it's back.

If you transport it upright, you can leave the repro and platter in place, but I would recommend immobilizing the tonearm as above.

Oh ya, be sure and remove the crank (winding key) and if you transport on it's back, be sure to remove any needles and needle cup inserts unless you want to be picking hundreds of needles out of the cabinet, your vehicle, and the floor of you house.


Good luck and hope to see you back as a regular.
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 Post subject: Re: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:10 am 
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How do I remove the reproducer and the platter? Does the platter lift off, or do both of them have a setscrew or something?



Thanks! So the crank is the winding "key" for the motor like I have always thought then, right? There is no dual key setup on these machines?
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 Post subject: Re: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:02 am 
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Hi Sig,

Sure, the platter should just lift off. If not, check to see if the spindle has a slot in the top or a hole through the side. If so, then it probably unscrews. If this is the case, the platter is held on securely and you don't need to remove it, though, use a small nail or screw driver to unscrew it if you want to remove it.

The repro should have a small small pin the fits into a slot in the tone arm. All you have to do is rotate the repro about a 1/16 of a turn and then pull it off. If you don't want to remove, just be sure to make sure it is immobilized and won't flop around in transport. I always remove it myself.

The winding key (technically the correct term, however, most people use crank) is indeed the crank for the motor.
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 Post subject: Re: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:57 am 
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Ordinarily I'd say $368 is a high price for a console, but the 230 is an exception. It all comes down to how much you really want it. The condition of the gold plated hardware is important- if there's much wear that takes away from the appearance.


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 Post subject: Re: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:11 am 
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Hmm. Well, it appears the tables have turned.


This popped up on my local Craigslist:

"This is a wonderful and antique Victrola with shelves underneath. Under the lid, It says Victrola, Victor Talking Machine Company, and it has the date 1906. This is a wonderful piece, and is in near perfect condition. I am also including several records and extra needles. I am only parting with it because I am making room for a sewing area! Serious inquiries only, please! " -$225

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Any idea what model it is? It's beautiful. I intend on having that in my living room. I just hope the seller reads my e-mail. :(
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 Post subject: Re: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:28 am 
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Here's the page with (most of) the Victrola models -- http://www.victor-victrola.com/new_page_2.htm

That looks like either the VV-XVII -- http://www.victor-victrola.com/XVII.htm

or its follow-on, the VV-130 -- http://www.victor-victrola.com/130.htm

Judging from what I can see of the tonearm, I'd guess it's the 130, but there should be a mfg's plate under the lid with the model and serial number.

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 Post subject: Re: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:31 am 
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It appears to be a VV-XVII

http://victor-victrola.com/XVII.htm

At that price- BUY IT RIGHT NOW.


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 Post subject: Re: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:37 pm 
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Well, I got it. It's a VV-XVII. A 1918 model, according to the serial #.

It looks beautiful. Only thing I can find wrong with it, is the reproducer is incorrect. It's a Victor Orthophonic reproducer, instead of a No. 2, or similar. (Perhaps someone on here would be willing to trade a No. 2 for a Ortho?)

Everything else looks perfect. The winding key has a little speckling, but other than that, it's great.


It does make a very slight ticka ticka ticka ticka when it's at full speed, it can't be heard when the needle is on the record, however. Is this something to fret over, or is it just the motor rotating?

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 Post subject: Re: Victrola Ownership Tips/Advise/Questions
PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:41 pm 
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That is a real beauty, and if the Orthophonic reproducer is in rebuildable condition you got an especially sweet deal. #2 reproducers aren't hard to find although a good gold plate one might take a bit of searching. Congratulations!


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