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 Post subject: Could Someone Tell Me What Kind Of Horn This Is?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:09 am 
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I have a horn that I don't know anything about and need help identifying who made it. It looks like an Edison horn in that it is black with the gold paint along the seams. It has 11 panels and has petals that curve outward at the ends rather than inward like the Edison horns. It is about 30 inches tall and about 22" across the opening. Here are some pictures. Does anyone know who made this horn? Thanks for the help!

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 Post subject: Re: Could Someone Tell Me What Kind Of Horn This Is?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:49 am 
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It looks the same as one I had years ago that came with a Columbia.


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 Post subject: Re: Could Someone Tell Me What Kind Of Horn This Is?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 3:14 am 
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I recently had a horn that was the exactly the same features as that one, albeit with a different paint job. It was a Hawthorne and Sheble brand. Mine had a little piece of paper glued on the inside of the fitting where the rubber hose would do that said "H&S" on it. You might take a look at yours, if by chance it might be there.


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 Post subject: Re: Could Someone Tell Me What Kind Of Horn This Is?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 11:33 am 
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Shane wrote:
I recently had a horn that was the exactly the same features as that one, albeit with a different paint job. It was a Hawthorne and Sheble brand. Mine had a little piece of paper glued on the inside of the fitting where the rubber hose would do that said "H&S" on it. You might take a look at yours, if by chance it might be there.


Wow Shane - - do you still have that horn? I've never heard of any markings inside the small end of a flower horn and I'd love to see one. The Hawthorne & Sheble flower horns I've seen have a large hanger mounted directly in the center of a panel, with a circular paper wafer glued nearby.

Judging by the hanger on Sonny's example, as well as its form, I'd guess that this was a product of the New Jersey Sheet Metal Company - - but that's only a guess. It's too bad that so many horns are unmarked.

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 Post subject: Re: Could Someone Tell Me What Kind Of Horn This Is?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 2:09 pm 
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Thanks for the replies everyone. I checked it again and there weren't any marks that I could find.

I agree with you George. So many of these horns are unidentifiable which is unfortunate when trying to study the history and evolution of phonographs and recorded sound. :?


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 Post subject: Re: Could Someone Tell Me What Kind Of Horn This Is?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 1:32 am 
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George-
I have since sold the horn in question, but you actually answered a question about it for me on this board when I first got it. It was a Hawthorne and Sheble "Silk Finish" horn. As I recall, the paper inside the fitting was old and yellowed, and it just said "H&S" and perhaps with a number following it. Here's the original thread with a picture.

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 Post subject: Re: Could Someone Tell Me What Kind Of Horn This Is?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:14 am 
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Yes - I remember that horn; a nice one. I'd love to have seen that little label. I'll keep my eyes open... Maybe I'd better check the ones that are here! ;)

George P.


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