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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:23 pm 
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I have a female crank oak 8 and a male crank ---really DARK DARK brown oak 8, never can tell if the price could just be a fluke.


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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 3:45 pm 
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It looks like four bidders were after the same machine. They may have been caught up in the moment. All that you need for a high selling price is to have two people that don't think that they can live without that one thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 2:06 pm 
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That is a nice example of an early VIII, possibly the first version, so that may be the reason for the high price. I once had a first style VV-IX and this machine exhibits similar characteristics. I'm sitting at the dr. Office, so I can't check the Victor Data book.


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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 3:32 pm 
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Location: NW Indiana B-19;VV-IV; VV-VI;VV-XVI; Edison Home B; Amberola 30; Col. BK; Magnola;
There is another VV-VIII on eBay, it is one like mine, it is the one with the F designation, from the mid-teens. This one has 14 bids with 6 hours remaining, the price is at 93.00.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre ... 3790360433

Maybe the VV-VIII is becoming a highly desirable machine.


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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:39 pm 
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The VIII is not as common as the IX or XI, but it does show up. Someone had one at Wayne a few years ago for $300, and I thought that was quite high, especially since it had been polyurethane coated. I saw one needing work at Brimfield last year for $140. They wouldn't take my $100 counteroffer, so I passed.

To me it's a nice machine, but not essential.


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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:46 pm 
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Location: NW Indiana B-19;VV-IV; VV-VI;VV-XVI; Edison Home B; Amberola 30; Col. BK; Magnola;
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The VIII is not as common as the IX or XI, but it does show up. Someone had one at Wayne a few years ago for $300, and I thought that was quite high, especially since it had been polyurethane coated. I saw one needing work at Brimfield last year for $140. They wouldn't take my $100 counteroffer, so I passed.

To me it's a nice machine, but not essential.


I am starting to think in my downsizing that I should have kept the VV 1-70 that sold for 275.00 and sold the VV-VIII.


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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:00 pm 
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Based on what Ive read over the past 20 years on these phonograph forums... if I'm selling it's worth a lot, but if I'm buying it should be a bargain.

Machine prices have always been all over the place.

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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:30 pm 
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Actually the price is not out of line. This is an early machine, circa 1912, by the S/N. These were sold in few numbers. This is a nice, all original machine. It has many features of outside horn machines. While not a bargain, still worth the price.
Harvey Kravitz


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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Sat Apr 06, 2019 1:53 am 
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Like Victrolacollector, I guess I just don't get it. The VV VIII is OK, but it is pretty unremarkable. For a newbee who has never owned a vintage phonograph, maybe it is worth the consideration, but for me, it's just another run of the mill machine. If you must own a machine of this ilk, might I suggest acquiring an HMV table-top machine of the mid to late 1920s equipped with #4 soundbox, swan-neck tone arm and longer horn. I've included a photos of the HMV 103. Either the HMV 103 or its larger, more desirable siblings dramatically outperform the lowly VV VIII which I have also owned. Your ears can tell the difference.


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 Post subject: Re: Why so much for this VV-VIII?
PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2020 10:38 am 
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I purchased a VV VIII C Victor Victrola with a beautiful cabinet but Needs a spring it has two barrels, and i can't find anything that tells me how to open them, also it needs a female end crank. Any help would be appreciated.


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