"Late" Victor Type "B" Ad ???

[gramophone78]

Sorry Bob, I should have read more carefully or hand my glasses on... . Rene's type B has the later brake #13,719.

[Zwebie]

It also appears that all of the ERJ B's had the bolt action brake.
A carry over from the Berliner days?

And it appears that all of the VTM B's used the straight "canon" bullet brake.

Bob S.

[AudioAntique]

Interesting topic.
Here are two more examples of B's.
Johnson Fleur-de-lis B, celluloid tag No. 35523
and a Vic Dolphin B No. 20588

[Zwebie]

Interesting topic.
Here are two more examples of B's.
Johnson Fleur-de-lis B, celluloid tag No. 35523
and a Vic Dolphin B No. 20588

Hi AudioAntique,

Does your celluloid tagged "B" with the Consolidated Talking Machine five screw spring case have a "B" stamped over the "J" like mine?
This is getting more and more interesting!
Was Johnson using up the remaining Berliner/Consolidated motors on his earliest ERJ "Fluer-de-lis" B's ???

Bob S.

[AudioAntique]

Does your celluloid tagged "B" with the Consolidated Talking Machine five screw spring case have a "B" stamped over the "J" like mine?

Bob,

It does not appear so.

Rob R.

[gramophone78]

Just want to add this late 1900 ERJ (Consolidated Talking Machine) catalog page (courtesy of Allen K) showing the Type B. The cut drawing appears to still be a improved Gramophone without embellishments or carved base trim. You can also see what appears to be a celluloid plate (or decal) on the travel arm. The reference to the Exhibition sound box is still a Clark-Johnson type. So, what was the improvement..?.