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Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:21 pm
by schweg
All right, I waited a bit before posting this one. I know it's a later phono and has a radio- but I don't participate in the radio forums so thought I'd post it here. After all, it's from 1929 or 30, not that late, it is a Victor product, and it has the trademark all over it.. so here it is:

Make: Victor Electrola
Model: RE-45
Serial # 25407
Year(s) Made: '29-'30
Original Cost: $275 for a "normal" RE-45
Case/Cabinet Size: mahog.
Turntable/Mandrel: 12"
Reproducer/Sound-Box: electric pick-up w/ permanent horseshoe magnet
Motor: induction motor
Horn Dimensions: 9" electrodynamic speaker
Reproduction Parts: none
Current Value: dunno
Interesting Facts: obviously not a "normal" RE-45. Still needs restoration but the radio supposedly works. I worked on the cabinet some but have not messed with the electronics.

Favorite Characteristics: this showed up at an auction 5 hrs away. I decided to go and have a look. It is an unbelievably ornate cabinet although it has a normal RE-45 turntable, speaker and power unit. It also has an RE-45 tag and a stamped on patent number although it is hard to read. Anyway, if anyone knows something more- please feel free to comment.

This is what a regular RE-45 looks like:
Victor_RE45_(1929)_Park.jpg
and here's the one I bought at the auction:
re45 001.jpg
re45 002.jpg
re45 003.jpg
re45 006.jpg
re45 004.jpg
re45 005.jpg
re45 007.jpg
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Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:23 pm
by schweg
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Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:53 pm
by gramophone78
WOW!!!!! Now that is a great "RADIO"..... :lol: Why would they even put some Phonograph into a piece of art like this!!!???? :o :lol: Steve, as always you show some outstanding things. I'm moving to Texas. So, I can hit them auctions :twisted:

Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:21 am
by wjw
That is quite a find. And what a variation on the stock cabinet! No front doors, and no storage to the right and left in the front or under the lid on either side of the turntable.
I wonder if there is more than one of these?

Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:40 pm
by Valecnik
wjw wrote:That is quite a find. And what a variation on the stock cabinet! No front doors, and no storage to the right and left in the front or under the lid on either side of the turntable.
I wonder if there is more than one of these?
WOW! No apologies necessary for posting something so late. I suppose the reason there's no record storage is that if you could afford this, you lived in a place big enough that you had many other storage options.

Any idea what this would have cost new compared to the stock model???

Thanks for posting!

Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:19 pm
by Uncle Vanya
These cabinets were offered in the late '20's by a couple of Chicago area cabinet firms, as semi-custom jobs to house one's own radio or phonograph. E. H. Scott used some of them as alternativescabinet choices for the All-Wave 12 and All_Wave 15 sets, and the units were being remaindered out in the Barawick catalogs of 1933 and 1934 at a price of $49.99.


Sparton issued a set in tis 1927 or 1928 product line in a cabinet quite similar to this, as did Federal. It is NOT a product of the Camden cabinet factory, but is a beautiful example of the woodworker's art, nonetheless.

Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:08 pm
by antique1973
Incredible carvings, very nice! I don't think my wife could complain if I
brought home one like that. :lol: I have the rather utilitarian version of a
Zenith myself. :)

Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:59 pm
by phonogfp
That's some cabinet!

Luckily, the U.S. Design Patent number is visible in one of the photos. This design for a "Radiocabinet" (all one word) was filed by Loreto P Alonzi on May 13, 1929, and granted as No. 79,219 on Aug. 20, 1929. The patent was assigned to the Alonzi Furniture Company, located in Chicago.

George P.

Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:06 pm
by schweg
Thanks for all the information on the cabinet. I knew you gents would come through with some great facts that I didn't know. Is there any way to get a copy of the patent application or information?

Steve

Re: Featured Phonograph № 63

Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2010 11:16 pm
by phonogfp
Steve,

Sure - - Google "patents," then click on "Google Patents" on the list. A screen will come up with a "SEARCH" box near the top. Type in "Design 79219" and only two matches will come up. Click on the correct one and it will come up. Then download the file to print. It's easier than it sounds.

George P.