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 Post subject: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 10:54 pm 
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Hey guys I wanted to share this interesting machine I was lucky enough to get. I went to buy it with the impression that it was a vic IV, and even thought it was a IV when I loaded it in my truck. To my surprise the name plate said MS (I have a fancy case MS) but had not seen one like this. It was very dirty and still has a dark tone to the case after a lot of cleaning, but I am very excited about this oak IV/ MS. I wanted to see who else out there might have one so maybe we could compare notes.

Thanks guys, sorry for the long post.


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 Post subject: Re: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:28 pm 
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Nice find...
"The phonograph† is not of any commercial value."
Thomas Alva Edison - Comment to his assistant, Samuel Insull.

"No one needs a Victrola XX, a Perfected Graphophone Type G, or whatever you call those noisy things."
My Wife


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 Post subject: Re: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 11:38 pm 
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Victor Monarch Special
Stop for a visit when in Oregon.
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Congratulations on an exciting find!

Jerry B.


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 Post subject: Re: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:33 am 
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Congratulations on a very nice machine. This is a very rare MS in the OAK case,
made like a VIC 4, the finish is original. I would use Kramer's restore a finish
to clean further. This is an all natural product that does no harm to the finish, but cleans very well, can be used on metal too, which the horn needs. Order on line or find at most antique malls.

As far as comparing notes, I owned one of these same machines years ago. I had just bought it and someone offered
me a lot more money so I sold it. I have regretted that ever since, never had the opportunity to buy another, over 20 years ago.

You should make every effort to find an original crank and restore this, it will be one of the rarest machines you will find.

Thanks for sharing, brings back great memories, All the best,

David & Lerria


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 Post subject: Re: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 11:52 am 
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We are only the caretakers for future generations.
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Here are some previous posts about the Transitional Oak Monarch Special

https://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=40684&p=240783&hilit=Oak+Victor+Monarch+Special#p240783

https://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5112&p=28613&hilit=Oak+Victor+Monarch+Special#p28613

https://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=28&hilit=Oak+Victor+Monarch+Special

https://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=13288&hilit=Transitional+Monarch+Special

Cheers, Bob S.


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 Post subject: Re: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 12:36 pm 
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I've got both kinds of music--classical & rag-time.
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Location: South Carolina
This is wonderful!

I have an original crank for you if you need one. It will need a little brazing (there is a crack on the slotted end) but the nickel plating is absolutely gorgeous & it has the right color of knob for an oak machine. It came from a minty Victor III.


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 Post subject: Re: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:07 pm 
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Nice find, Taylor !! -- Send some pics when you get it all cleaned up!!

Brad Abell


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 Post subject: Re: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:28 pm 
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Those who were seen dancing were thought insane by those who could not hear the music. Nietzsche
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Nice find, and I love the Second Hand Machine label.

James.


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 Post subject: Re: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:33 pm 
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What a great find! Congratulations!


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 Post subject: Re: Vic IV/MS
PostPosted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:41 pm 
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Victor II
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Location: Tennessee
phonolady wrote:
Congratulations on a very nice machine. This is a very rare MS in the OAK case,
made like a VIC 4, the finish is original. I would use Kramer's restore a finish
to clean further. This is an all natural product that does no harm to the finish, but cleans very well, can be used on metal too, which the horn needs. Order on line or find at most antique malls.

As far as comparing notes, I owned one of these same machines years ago. I had just bought it and someone offered
me a lot more money so I sold it. I have regretted that ever since, never had the opportunity to buy another, over 20 years ago.

You should make every effort to find an original crank and restore this, it will be one of the rarest machines you will find.

Thanks for sharing, brings back great memories, All the best,

David & Lerria


Thank you, it was just luck that I stumbled on this one. The crank it has is not original (but slotted), you are right I need to get one. I will look up the Kramers, I have not used this product before.


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