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 Post subject: Home Model B follow-the-restoration.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:38 pm 
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Victor V
I've got both kinds of music--classical & rag-time.
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So anyway I have an Edison Home B up for restoration.

I bought it in October at the CAMPS swapmeet and thought it would be a good candidate for a complete restoration. It was.

Then I moved,
and then it snowed,
and then I got bored.

SO HERE WE GO.

I am sure that other, better restorers would have tried salvaging the original finish on this phonograph, but I saw the shellac coming up in great flakes and figured that it was time to start over.


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File comment: This actually makes the decal look better than it was. Passing a hand over the surface left great flakes of decal coming up.
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File comment: Bottom board of case had split almost entirely--a common problem with the bottoms of Edisons and the tops of Victors.
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 Post subject: Re: Home Model B follow-the-restoration.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:13 pm 
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Victor Monarch Special
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I look forward to seeing progress. Modern decals make a project like this possible to high standards.

Jerry B.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Model B follow-the-restoration.
PostPosted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 4:56 pm 
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Victor V
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Thanks Mr Blais--

I've got high hopes for it. David Zavracky explained the planetary gearbox so I was able to knock that down & get inside. What's the point of having one's own dining-room table if you can't put phonograph parts on it?

The project should be done a long ways out--stripping the case is going poorly & I am convinced I need a better chemical stripper than just alcohol. But here it is so far. Bedplate has good paint on it--I'll be touching up worn parts but otherwise it's fine.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Model B follow-the-restoration.
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 9:38 am 
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Looking good Charles ;)

Keep up to good work!

Cheers,

David


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 Post subject: Re: Home Model B follow-the-restoration.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 1:25 am 
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Victor V
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Location: South Carolina
Finish prep time!

The base board is off because it's in horrible shape--still have to glue it. Then I can go about getting it stripped and sanded.


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File comment: Filled and drying, awaiting stain and finish coats...and the baseboard.
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File comment: Filler: looks rough, but it's not as bad as it looks.
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File comment: First sealing coat of very thinned shellac.
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File comment: Sanding the case parts
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 Post subject: Re: Home Model B follow-the-restoration.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:48 am 
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Looking good! Make sure you sand the case evenly after the filler. You don’t want the case to have random dark spots.

David


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 Post subject: Re: Home Model B follow-the-restoration.
PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2021 7:59 am 
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Victor V
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VanEpsFan1914 wrote:
I am convinced I need a better chemical stripper than just alcohol.


Probably a silly question, but are you using the right alcohol?

You need to use Ethanol Alcohol, and not Isopropyl Alcohol.
I only ask because I've seen people multiple times using the wrong stuff, especially when mixing or diluting shellac.

The bedplate looks fantastic btw.
I must say though, I think this is the first time I've seen someone sanding a phonograph wearing a tie.
About as classy that I get is board shorts and singlet lol.


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 Post subject: Re: Home Model B follow-the-restoration.
PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 12:08 am 
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Victor V
I've got both kinds of music--classical & rag-time.
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Location: South Carolina
@Shane-- I do think I used the right alcohol; it was denatured. Still just a lot of work. As for why do I sand phonographs with a tie on, I'm usually too lazy to change and have just gotten very good at not splashing phonogrime everywhere. Before I figured that out I washed a lot of collars and cuffs :lol: Board shorts & a singlet (sounds like what Americans would call drawers & a T-shirt) is far too nice for wearing on phonograph repairs; that's dress code to go to Wal-Mart!



Well I'm still scabbing this old thing together, after a particularly busy and less than pleasant week balancing college, work, and apartment living--specifically cooking; I love to cook food but come home too tired to eat it.

But still not too busy to tinker with a phonograph off and on, though! I got the first two coats of shellac onto the cabinet, mended the crack in the baseboard (which I haven't filled and finished yet) and tried sanding some of the lid, which is a lot more work than it looks like.

Unfortunately some of the plating is ruined on some of the parts. I know some local plating companies and perhaps they can help.

So here's the Edison Home B at present in pictures.

What's missing:

Model C reproducer
Model H reproducer
Drive belt
Drive belt pulley, billet aluminum
Governor drive gear
Governor weights, screws, and leaf springs
Mainspring barrel
Mainspring
Winding crank
Rubber feet
EDISON HOME PHONOGRAPH banner transfer
Bedplate trademark decal
Supplies to paint pinstripes
Black paint
Motor shock mount (just one)

...and some kind of a horn.
I could go for a standard 14" witch hat, and space in my tiny apartment is limited. But I may yet put a proper horn on it--which means a crane, and notching the case so I can put the bracket for a replica on. (My budget doesn't permit an original clip-on crane.)

I shouldn't have bought it but am glad I did. Watching it go from scaly old wreck to a restored piece is kind of a reminder of why I like to fix phonographs in the first place. It will be a keeper when it's ready to go again, probably.


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File comment: Here we go again. I still need to put the bottom on, and sand the lid. It's coming together though.
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 Post subject: Re: Home Model B follow-the-restoration.
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2021 8:59 pm 
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Victor IV
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Finding a treasure and bringing it back to life is very rewarding. The work gives you the bond. Enjoy the journey and keep the progress posts coming.


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