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Brass Phonograph Horn OLD or NEW?

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:54 am
by Lampman5
This horn is 24 ¼ inches long and the bell is only 9 ¼ inches in diameter. Always thought this was a reproduction because of the construction but unsure.
Any ideas?

Thanks
Steve

Re: Brass Phonograph Horn OLD or NEW?

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:55 am
by JerryVan
OLD

Re: Brass Phonograph Horn OLD or NEW?

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 12:55 pm
by Phono-Phan
I'll second that.

Re: Brass Phonograph Horn OLD or NEW?

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:25 pm
by AmberolaAndy
No “bead” around the bell of the horn. You got the real deal.

Re: Brass Phonograph Horn OLD or NEW?

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 10:44 pm
by Jerry B.
I'll third that.

Jerry B.

Re: Brass Phonograph Horn OLD or NEW?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:22 am
by poodling around
AmberolaAndy wrote: Sat Apr 03, 2021 8:25 pm No “bead” around the bell of the horn. You got the real deal.
Could you please explain little more about what you mean about the 'bead' ?

and how this allows you to tell if a horn is old or not.

Re: Brass Phonograph Horn OLD or NEW?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 10:21 am
by Jerry B.
I believe Andy is talking about the area where the body of the horn meets the bell. I think the horn would look great with an early cylinder player combined with a table crane.

Jerry B.

Re: Brass Phonograph Horn OLD or NEW?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:05 pm
by Curt A
Very early horns are seamless or have soldered joints and later ones are pressed together forming a bead. Just because a horn has a bead does not mean that it isn't old, BUT all repro horns have beads, so you have to be aware of that possibility...
Here is an example of a horn bead:
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Re: Brass Phonograph Horn OLD or NEW?

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:13 pm
by poodling around
Curt A wrote: Sun Apr 04, 2021 1:05 pm Very early horns are seamless or have soldered joints and later ones are pressed together forming a bead. Just because a horn has a bead does not mean that it isn't old, BUT all repro horns have beads, so you have to be aware of that possibility...
Here is an example of a horn bead:
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Aha. Very useful information to know.

Thank you Curt A.