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The oil would not flow from the cup under the turntable on my Sheraton S-19 Phonograph. With the motor plate upside-down I plan to clean them, but, before I start the location of some seems to be wrong in that the felt doesn't touch a rotating part.
Is there a method to clean them out and is there a good picture of how they should be positioned ? I have attached a picture before I have done anything to them.
Marc
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Re: Oil Tube Positioning\Cleaning Edison Sheridan Phonograph
The felt doesn't need to touch. Just needs to be near enough to let a drop of oil fall on the bearing. Before you clean the tubes out, do you have replacement felt to put back in the ends?
(BTW, Sheraton)
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Re: Oil Tube Positioning\Cleaning Edison Sheraton Phonograph
JerryVan,
No, I have no replacement felt or for that matter even know how the felt is held in the tube.
I have worked on clocks and Edison Cylinder Machines, but this is the first Diamond Disc Phonograph I have taken apart.
Thanks for the correct spelling of Sheraton.
Marc
No, I have no replacement felt or for that matter even know how the felt is held in the tube.
I have worked on clocks and Edison Cylinder Machines, but this is the first Diamond Disc Phonograph I have taken apart.
Thanks for the correct spelling of Sheraton.
Marc
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Re: Oil Tube Positioning\Cleaning Edison Sheridon Phonograph
I just push a fine wire down each hole to make sure there's nothing solid obstructing the tube, but I don't push it hard enough to push the felt wick from the tube. As far as I know the wick is not glued or clamped to the tube but is just compacted enough to hold itself in place.
It really shouldn't matter much about dust in the tubes because the oil would seep through most dust anyway.
I do use the wire to expel air from each line though, and once each tube seems to be full of oil, I fill the cup and leave it, and probably only refill the cup again every 2-3 months.
You'll probably find it actually just air stopping the oil from disappearing straight away and they're not really clogged or need cleaning out.
It really shouldn't matter much about dust in the tubes because the oil would seep through most dust anyway.
I do use the wire to expel air from each line though, and once each tube seems to be full of oil, I fill the cup and leave it, and probably only refill the cup again every 2-3 months.
You'll probably find it actually just air stopping the oil from disappearing straight away and they're not really clogged or need cleaning out.
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Re: Oil Tube Positioning\Cleaning Edison Sheridon Phonograph
*Sheraton, not “Sheridon”.
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Re: Oil Tube Positioning\Cleaning Edison Sheridon Phonograph
Just for reference: "Sheraton" is a furniture "style" developed by Thomas Sheraton in the late 1700s. Edison "Sheraton" cabinets are a loose interpretation of that specific style. Sheraton was influenced by French furniture and his designs feature elements of the Louis XVI and Directoire style. His later work shows a shift to the Empire style and is increasingly heavier.
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Re: Oil Tube Positioning\Cleaning Edison Sheraton Phonograph
JohnM,
Thanks for the spelling. Do you have any comments regarding the correct position of the oil tubes or how to clean them ?
Marc
Thanks for the spelling. Do you have any comments regarding the correct position of the oil tubes or how to clean them ?
Marc
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Re: Oil Tube Positioning\Cleaning Edison Sheraton Phonograph
Curt A,
Interesting info on the cabinet style. I had visited Sheridan Wyoming many times and just thought that was the correct spelling. Sheridan Wyoming was named after Philip Sheridan a Union Cavalry general and a real nice Western town.
Marc
Interesting info on the cabinet style. I had visited Sheridan Wyoming many times and just thought that was the correct spelling. Sheridan Wyoming was named after Philip Sheridan a Union Cavalry general and a real nice Western town.
Marc