longest tonearm?

Discussions on Talking Machines & Accessories
anchorman
Victor II
Posts: 346
Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:50 pm

longest tonearm?

Post by anchorman »

Other than an EMG/expert, which machines had long tonearms? I've seen an HMV 461 with tone arm that looked to be much longer than what we ordinarily find. The HMV 101 portable has a relatively long arm compared to many others I've seen, but the geometry does not look ideal.

Does anyone have information on this? I'm trying to find something suitable for a project I'm working on, without having to resort to fabricating an arm from scratch or modifying an existing arm.

User avatar
poodling around
Victor V
Posts: 2176
Joined: Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:52 am

Re: longest tonearm?

Post by poodling around »

anchorman wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 1:43 pm Other than an EMG/expert, which machines had long tonearms? I've seen an HMV 461 with tone arm that looked to be much longer than what we ordinarily find. The HMV 101 portable has a relatively long arm compared to many others I've seen, but the geometry does not look ideal.

Does anyone have information on this? I'm trying to find something suitable for a project I'm working on, without having to resort to fabricating an arm from scratch or modifying an existing arm.
Gilbert and Novaphonic gramophones have very long tonearms.

CarlosV
Victor IV
Posts: 1847
Joined: Sun Mar 15, 2009 6:18 am
Location: Luxembourg

Re: longest tonearm?

Post by CarlosV »

The HMV large reentrants also have long arms, like the HMV202, but they are not easy to find.

OrthoFan
Victor V
Posts: 2183
Joined: Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:12 pm

Re: longest tonearm?

Post by OrthoFan »

Maybe this one?

viewtopic.php?t=1190

OF

anchorman
Victor II
Posts: 346
Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2011 8:50 pm

Re: longest tonearm?

Post by anchorman »

OrthoFan wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:30 pm Maybe this one?

viewtopic.php?t=1190

OF
Ha!

Not quite what I’m after, but impressive all the same!

Watanabehi
Victor II
Posts: 297
Joined: Wed Mar 22, 2017 3:13 pm

Re: longest tonearm?

Post by Watanabehi »

OrthoFan wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 5:30 pm Maybe this one?

viewtopic.php?t=1190

OF
Simply amazing!!!! But how about the sound?

Hideki

User avatar
Inigo
Victor VI
Posts: 3781
Joined: Mon Dec 18, 2017 1:51 am
Personal Text: Keep'em well oiled
Location: Madrid, Spain
Contact:

Re: longest tonearm?

Post by Inigo »

We simply don't know yet... about the sound of the rare spiral tonearm. There seems to be no video of this machine.

Yes, the arm of a 461 it's the longest tonearm in this type (narrow orthophonic) I suppose. The 511 may likely have a similar arm. And in the thicker orthophonic style, HMV 193/4 and 202/3 have the longest arm. You might also use the arm of a Credenza, or the one of a Panatrope or a grand Viva Tonal console. These are the largest arms in this style, and although I don't know the Brunswick and the Columbia on my own, I bet they also have good tracking alignment.
Last edited by Inigo on Wed Nov 23, 2022 3:10 am, edited 1 time in total.
Inigo

JeffR1
Victor III
Posts: 509
Joined: Sat Jul 24, 2021 11:04 pm
Location: British Columbia Vancouver Island Canada

Re: longest tonearm?

Post by JeffR1 »

This ?
I would have to contact the owner to find out the name, it's over in the Australian Facebook forums.
Attachments
1 Tone Arm.JPG

JohnM
Victor V
Posts: 2987
Joined: Fri Jan 09, 2009 2:47 am
Location: Jerome, Arizona
Contact:

Re: longest tonearm?

Post by JohnM »

JeffR1 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:17 pm This ?
I would have to contact the owner to find out the name, it's over in the Australian Facebook forums.
That’s a Gilbert.
"All of us have a place in history. Mine is clouds." Richard Brautigan

User avatar
Orchorsol
Victor IV
Posts: 1625
Joined: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:03 am
Location: Dover, UK
Contact:

Re: longest tonearm?

Post by Orchorsol »

JohnM wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:40 pm
JeffR1 wrote: Tue Nov 22, 2022 7:17 pm This ?
I would have to contact the owner to find out the name, it's over in the Australian Facebook forums.
That’s a Gilbert.
They look as though they ought to be good performers with that extra length of tapered tonearm, but I've always found Gilberts rather poor.
BCN thorn needles made to the original 1920s specifications: http://www.burmesecolourneedles.com

Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCe4DNb ... TPE-zTAJGg?

Post Reply