Blue Amberol cylinder Oddity ?

[Stephen_Madara]

I have a 4m blue amberol cylinder that was made in a 4m wax mold. I bought this over 20 years ago from Charley hummel and was wondering how many more are out there. Ada jones 4m 309. I will have it at the wayne show . Steve

[Roaring20s]

No mention on the internet.
Do you know of an example with the number on the rim?

James.

[Ben the phono man]

I've got one just like that (similar core) I'll bring it along and we can compare. See you then Steve.

[recordmaker]

In the transition period from wax to blue it seems logical that many wax master molds were tested to see if they would be good to make over into the new process the lack of turn over on the end and the incomplete title ring mean this it a test molding only. The sub-master mould would be a bit bigger than the working mould so the outer diameter is probably about 1 mm larger than you would expect and may not play on some reproducers.

[Curt A]

Brian Parlier is a big Ada Jones fan --- he might be interested.

[edisonplayer]

I have a couple of flat top Blue Amberols where they didn't dye the plaster blue.edisonplayer.

[gramophone-georg]

I love really odd things. So does my wife, fortunately.

[Governor Flyball]

It is interesting that the later post 1917? Blue Amberol box contained the record. This suggests that it was a later test? Or perhaps a special request?

[Starkton]

Does any of you have a wax Amberol or celluloid Amberol 4-minute (experimental) concert cylinder - or have you seen or heard of one?

[rbuck]

I bought a few of these cylinders from Charlie (different titles). Edison continued some of the 4-minute wax recordings over to BA. Charlie thought these were special requests of titles which were not carried over.
Notice the very white plaster. In addition to the special requests, other rare blue amberols which did not go through the regular production line have this plaster. While I have no facts, my speculation is this plaster was too expensive to be used on a regular basis.