Another New Addition...

[SonnyPhono]

It's been a pretty good weekend. I just got home with an oak Edison C-19 that is in pretty good condition. I haven't owned a C-19, or any Diamond Disc phonograph other than my A-100. I was surprised at the volume of this one as I am used to a 100 size horn. I will be rebuilding the reproducer and aside from that, it doesn't need anything else. Does anyone know how many of these were made? Here are some pictures.

[JohnM]

Sweet! Not sure how many were made, but certainly a lot. They were good sellers and made for five years, IIRC. 1919-1924(?)

[alang]

That's a beautiful machine in great condition. Congratulations.
I couldn't find any production numbers in the Frow book, only that it was a continuation (rename) of the C250 (Chippendale). Starting in April 1919 the C250 was renamed to C19, but with more emphasis on the name "Chippendale". Must have been very popular, because this cabinet style was available until August 1927. Initial price was $285, which was raised to $295 in December 1919.
More data is listed for the C250: production started in September 1915 at 780 a month. The Edison company had 58,000 Chippendale upright cabinets on order in December 1917, so it was definitely a popular model.
Enjoy!
Andreas

[gramophoneshane]

Congrats Sonny. A very nice machine indeed, and much shinier than my C19. It appears to still retain the original grille cloth?
The later models will have 3 governor weights instead of 2, and I presume the extra weight was added around the time the long play instruments were introduced.
Later still, the speed control knob was removed from the top side of the bedplate & was replaced by a knurled wheel on the underside of the bedplate but in the same position. This same motor was used in the Edisonic machines, so I guess this motor became standard in all non-Edisonic models around this time, once existing speed control knob motors were used up.
At some time during these 2 motor changes, the turntable felt was also changed from green to mustard, and the plain weave silk grille cloth was changed to a silk with a pattern in the weave.

It might be a good idea to pull out all the record dividers one of these days too. The leather cloth edging has a tendency to lift at the edges, which then has a habit of removing paper labels from your discs.
Also chech to see no dividers are bent. Underneath the leather cloth is a strip of metal to strengthen the cardboard dividers, and if they get bent, it can kink the metal leaving a sharp point which will gouge your discs as you pull them in & out.
I had about 3 that actually scratched records, and quite a few others made the disc an uncomfortably tight fit, so I ended up removing them all & hammering the entire length of each divider to make sure they were flat & straight, then glued down any lose leather cloth.
It was a HUGE job that took many hours, but it was well worth the effort because I dont have to worry about record damage or leaving slots empty ever again.

[Brad]

Wow Sonny,

Great looking machine. QS-Oak and record dividers are the desirable attributes for the C-19. Great score!

[OrthoSean]

Nice one, indeed.

I was looking a Frow the other day and someplace he mentioned that for every four mahogany machines Edison turned out one in oak was, so about ¼ of C-19s were oak while the others were mahogany.

As I said in another thread the other day, the C-19 is a real tank once everything is working properly.

Enjoy it!
Sean

[Valecnik]

What a great example of C19! I have a nice light oak one but the grain is much more pronounced on this one. Is that grillcloth original?

And when you get that reproducer rebuilt, it will knock your sox off.

[SonnyPhono]

Thanks everyone for the nice comments and information! I appreciate the input. As for the grill cloth, I am not sure if it is original or not. Like I said, I don't have much experience with these so I am not sure. I will post a few pictures of it and hopefully someone will be able to help determine it's originality.

Thanks again!

[Valecnik]

Thanks everyone for the nice comments and information! I appreciate the input. As for the grill cloth, I am not sure if it is original or not. Like I said, I don't have much experience with these so I am not sure. I will post a few pictures of it and hopefully someone will be able to help determine it's originality.

Thanks again!

Well that grillcloth certainly looks the right color. My C19 has the original but somewhat tattered grill cloth. You can see it here.

http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewto ... =c19#p7572

[Starkton]

This machine is about the nicest I have ever seen in oak. The wood grain is marvelous.