Edison Spring Motor/Triumph Questionnaire

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Typo, yes 7428.

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Thanks, Jerry, for the data on your two Triumphs. Much appreciated. Would you like your full name included in the event I ever publish this data? If so, just post it here or send it to me via PM. Thanks.

Rich, no - I didn't have data on Spring Motor No.7428. Thanks for that. Could I get the motor number and whether the gears are solid or spoked?

Thanks again, guys - -

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Hi, here is info about my current B:


Edison Spring Motor/Triumph Questionnaire
1) Serial number (found on top): 70241
2) Is serial number stamped in a plate, or a raised boss? plate
3) If stamped in a plate, what’s the last patent date? May 22, 1906
4) Does straight edge (where front of reproducer carriage rides) have 2 screws? no
5) Does the upper casting have lugs for Class M pulley wheels? no
6) Which secures the endgate; a ball catch, or a locking lug? lug
7) Does carriage hold the reproducer with nickeled clips, or a single screw at 2:00 position? retrofitted with horizontal carriage and 2/4 gearing; screw
8) Motor number (found stamped on front of motor frame): 53514
9) Are the motor gears solid or spoked? solid
10) If there’s a plate below the mandrel, what exactly does it say? none
11) Which does the cabinet have; a drawer, a banner decal, or an “Edison” script decal? script decal, but I'm fairly confident it's been refinished
12) Are there any dated material with it? Invoices? Packing slips? Writing inside the lid? no



I have partial information about a D that I sold after buying the B; taken from photos that I posted in the CraigsList ad:


Edison Spring Motor/Triumph Questionnaire
1) Serial number (found on top): 82439
2) Is serial number stamped in a plate, or a raised boss? plate
3) If stamped in a plate, what’s the last patent date? May 22, 1906
4) Does straight edge (where front of reproducer carriage rides) have 2 screws? no
5) Does the upper casting have lugs for Class M pulley wheels? no
6) Which secures the endgate; a ball catch, or a locking lug? n/a; no endgate
7) Does carriage hold the reproducer with nickeled clips, or a single screw at 2:00 position? horizontal carrier
8) Motor number (found stamped on front of motor frame): unknown; didn't photograph before selling
9) Are the motor gears solid or spoked? unknown; didn't photograph before selling
10) If there’s a plate below the mandrel, what exactly does it say? none
11) Which does the cabinet have; a drawer, a banner decal, or an “Edison” script decal? script decal; possibly original under the awful coat of polyurethane somebody slapped on it
12) Are there any dated material with it? Invoices? Packing slips? Writing inside the lid? There was a sticker about the horizontal carriage conversion, but I didn't photograph it and remember no details

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George, as you may remember I have a model E and wondered if you want any information from this model. I confess though not being educated in the subject some of the questions I don't understand. Perhaps once I poke around things will be made clear? PS Anthony Sinclair told me he had ten Triumphs so you need to talk to him perhaps. ha ha Neil

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drh:
Thanks for the data on those two Triumphs. If you send me your name, I'll include you in acknowledgements in any future published article on these.

Neil,
Sure, I'd be pleased to have data on your Model E. Actually, if it's easier, just send me a couple of pictures of the top works, with at least one showing the entire data plate. Then all I'd need is the motor number, found on the front of the silver motor frame (it's staring you in the face when you lift up the motor frame). Thanks!

George P.

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George,

Full last name is VanOoteghem.

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Data from my newly acquired Model A:
1. Serial # 31900
2. Plate
3. Last date: May 21, 1898
4.No
5. No
6. Ball catch
7. Retrofitted w/ horizontal carriage & 2/4 minute gearing
8. Motor #19567
9.Solid
10.None
11. Banner
12. No

Also: has dealer tag:
The Edisonia Co.
Cor. New & Halsey Sts.
A.O. Petit Mgr. Newark, NJ

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Thanks, Jerry and Bill.

Bill - if you supply me with your last name, I'll include you in future acknowledgements.

George P.

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Have info on another Model A:
1) Serial number (found on top): 42411
2) Is serial number stamped in a plate, or a raised boss? Plate
3) If stamped in a plate, what’s the last patent date? Nov. 17, 1903
4) Does straight edge (where front of reproducer carriage rides) have 2 screws? No
5) Does the upper casting have lugs for Class M pulley wheels? No
6) Which secures the endgate; a ball catch, or a locking lug? Ball Catch
7) Does carriage hold the reproducer with nickeled clips, or a single screw at 2:00 position? N/A (Diamond B carriage)
8) Motor number (found stamped on front of motor frame): 29022
9) Are the motor gears solid or spoked? Solid
10) If there’s a plate below the mandrel, what exactly does it say? N/A
11) Which does the cabinet have; a drawer, a banner decal, or an “Edison” script decal? Banner
12) Are there any dated material with it? Invoices? Packing slips? Writing inside the lid? No

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Thanks Wes.

If you supply me with your last name, I'll include you in future acknowledgements.

George P.

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