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 Post subject: Pathé record X 6302 - Phil Spitalny.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:43 pm 
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This pretty-label record is truly international; recorded in USA, pressed in Belgium, with Anglo-French text. Matrix no. is N (for "needle"?) 109022. It's clearly the gutsy Spitalny orchestra, with its characteristic key modulation near the end, and the Paull Sisters on vocal. Spitalny recorded the same number for Edison on 25 Sep 1929 (sadly, the last recording date of needle-cuts that were issued) but this isn't it. And it's not from his later Hit-of-the-Weeks (or from his - much - earlier Victors). There's nothing in Rust.
Was it recorded by American Pathé? And can anyone tell me please, the date of recording?
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 Post subject: Re: Pathé record X 6302 - Phil Spitalny.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 23, 2020 7:55 pm 
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The following info comes from "The Online Discographical Project":
Pathé mx 109022 (take 3) "Bottoms Up" was issued on American Pathé as cat. no 37057 and on Perfect 15238 and credited to the Majestic Dance Orch. The flip side was "Bigger And Better Than Ever" (mx.108988-3) and credited to The Ten Freshmen. No date listed, but mx.109025 was recorded on 10-17-29, very close to the date of the Spitlany recording of the same title for Edison. Hope this helps.

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 Post subject: Re: Pathé record X 6302 - Phil Spitalny.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 3:12 pm 
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Wonderful! Thanks so much for solving this. The take numbers are not visible on my copy. The flip side of mine is credited to "Irving Mills' Orchestra" ( a studio band) N 108998 - the vocal is by Irving Kaufman.
Probably not relevant, but it's noticeable that in the mid-1920s, many Edison dance bands also recorded for (US) Pathé.


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 Post subject: Re: Pathé record X 6302 - Phil Spitalny.
PostPosted: Wed Jun 24, 2020 4:02 pm 
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Gramophile wrote:

Probably not relevant, but it's noticeable that in the mid-1920s, many Edison dance bands also recorded for (US) Pathé.


Early recording contracts were rarely exclusive. It wasn't at all uncommon for an artist to record a selection, then record the same selection for a competitor shortly after.


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 Post subject: Re: Pathé record X 6302 - Phil Spitalny.
PostPosted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 10:01 am 
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Indeed; and some dance bands were very promiscuous. Particularly notable was Sam Lanin, who sometimes recorded the same number for 3 companies (using different names, naturally) ; easy money! Sometimes with the same vocalist, unless the recording company had their own (like Edison).


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 Post subject: Re: Pathé record X 6302 - Phil Spitalny.
PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:02 pm 
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Allan Sutton's "Pseudonyms On American Records 1892-1942" credits "Bottoms Up" to Vic Randolph's Orch. After doing a little more digging in Rust's "Dance Bands" dicog, it appears it was actually a Sam Lanin group, with vocals by the Bonner Sisters. Recorded 16 Oct. 1929 in NYC.

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 Post subject: Re: Pathé record X 6302 - Phil Spitalny.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 8:42 am 
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Wow, even better! Isn't discography complicated? But then the Paulls do sound like the Bonners. Thanks again.


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