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This French 6 inch record has so far defied identification. It is double sided and electrically recorded.
Internet searches only come up with "Sonora" or L'Anthologie Sonore". Any information about this label would be greatly appreciated.

Marcelle Bordas (1897-1968) appears to have been a well known French cabaret singer.
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Thank you Curt. That much I had discovered, but what I don't know is who made them.

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That's a great label. It immediately reminded me of the movie Cabaret lol
I wonder if Jean-Paul Argand might know anything about where they were pressed?

This fellow on YouTube also has a few of these "Discoflex baby" Marcelle Bordas/Rene Herent recordings uploaded, so he may know something?
It can't hurt to ask.

https://www.youtube.com/user/lysgauty1

I wonder if your Baby Sonor recordings and those on the flexible records share the same matrix numbers?

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Check with Jalal at Phonogallerie in Paris, if anyone would know, he probably would.
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Here's a French PDF with "Baby - Sonor" in what looks like a design patent list.
Dates this logo version at 1934 :coffee:
http://www.archeophone.org/rtf_pdf/Marq ... s_inpi.pdf
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http://www.archeophone.org/rtf_pdf/MRKINDEX2003.pdf

and
a possible relationship here. Both are small children oriented discs. And look at the similar Baby font as your disc.
http://www.45spaces.com/company-sleeves ... =bjs584270

That's all I got...

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At least we know where it was made. Saint-Cloud is a suburb of Paris...
If it was made around 1934, that was just before the NAZI occupation of Paris... and records (paper ones) might be hard to find.
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Curt A wrote:At least we know where it was made. Saint-Cloud is a suburb of Paris...
If it was made around 1934, that was just before the NAZI occupation of Paris... and records (paper ones) might be hard to find.
I'm not disputing the rarity of the Baby Sonor records (about which I know nothing), but the Germans didn't invade France until May 10, 1940, and didn't occupy Paris until June 14. That's a 6 year span.

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Thank you gentlemen. I have emailed the Phonogalerie and will let you know the outcome in due course.

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phonogfp wrote:
Curt A wrote:At least we know where it was made. Saint-Cloud is a suburb of Paris...
If it was made around 1934, that was just before the NAZI occupation of Paris... and records (paper ones) might be hard to find.
I'm not disputing the rarity of the Baby Sonor records (about which I know nothing), but the Germans didn't invade France until May 10, 1940, and didn't occupy Paris until June 14. That's a 6 year span.

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I'm aware of that timeframe, George. However, any records of this enterprise could have been destroyed after the occupation, especially if it was a Jewish business... who knows.
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